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The photo looks to be that of Shashi Kapoor and not of Prithviraj Kapoor. Can somebody verify? - Lost 09:00, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No, the photo has a younger Prithviraj Kapoor, of 1929.

Can we use the Non-Free Image File:Prithviraj Kapoor1.jpg in the title of this article? As it is fair use, removing it.--Vssun (talk) 05:12, 31 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think as a Peshawar resident Prithvi would've been able to speak both Pushto and Urdu. The latter language as the regional language of Punjab, as well as NWFP's education system, would've been his medium of written communication. In fact Prithvi was cast, in films, in roles requiring high classic Urdu given his enunciation and accent. User: Moarrikh 23:22, 24 November 2011

User:Saladin1987 keeps erasing the Pathan/Pashtun references from this article. [1] Before him was the now banned (User:PISCOSOUR786)[2] who was doing the same deleting of Pathan. Every reliable published source I come across mentions that Prithviraj Kapoor was a Pathan/Pashtun. [3] [4]

He named one of his earliest plays Pathan, which is the story of a Muslim and his Hindu friend. [5] It is a well established fact that Prithviraj Kapoor was Pathan from Peshawar. The person who keeps deleting/erasing this is obviously showing everyone that she is a racist vandal. It is just a waste of time and future embarrasment for removing this well sourced information from the article.--Fareed30 (talk) 03:54, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

• Shammi Kapoor (son of Prithviraj): "I was born in Bombay... my parents belonged to Peshawar, they were born there then they entered Bombay... we all belong to a community called the Hindu Pathan... Muslim Pathan... I was born in Bombay...." Phone Interview with Shammi Kapoor 20/10/07. Youtube link --Fareed30 (talk) 02:01, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
• Question: Are there any independent reliable sources that verify his ethnicity? The rediff one is not particularly reliable. The google books one doesn't explicitly say he was a Pathan (just that his play "represented" pathans". There were plenty of Punjabi Hindus in Peshawar so merely being from Peshawar is not enough. Lacking better sources, it may be better to not say anything about his ethnicity whatsoever and merely leave "from Peshawar" in. --regentspark (comment) 13:48, 19 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

• regentpark, the rediff is excerpted from "The Kapoors: The First Family Of Indian Cinema by Madhu Jain, published by Penguin Books India", look at the very bottom of that site. [6] Madhu Jain completed an extensive research on the Kapoors and then published this info so how can you say it is not reliable? What more reliable source can you find other than that? On top of this, Shammi Kapoor clearly stated that they were Pathans and not even once mention any Punjabi.
• Show me your source for the "plenty of Punjabi Hindus" living in Peshawar. Peshawar was never part of Punjab so where do you get "Punjabi" from? The language and culture of Peshawar is that of Pathans. You have to know Pashto language in order to suvive there. Him being Pathan is important information which must be included and it's well established, everyone in Bollywood knows that he was Pathan. There is no source that contradict this info. It is just this anti-Pathan user:Saladin1987 who wants this info removed and now you're some what supporting his cause. He is just being racist and you're not able to see this. Based on what he revealed to me, including his view point, his attitude towards Pathans, his writing style, his behaviour, his location, and other stuff, I think I know this guy from chat rooms. The guy in chat rooms was an ultra Pakistani nationalist living in Australia who hated everyone, especially Indians and Afghans.--Fareed30 (talk) 18:59, 20 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Links for Punjabi ethnicity i will paste for every kapoor seperately

Prithviraj Kapoor : [[7]][[8]][[9]][[10]] only punjabi films [[Kapoor starred in the legendary religious Punjabi film Nanak Naam Jahaz Hai (1969), a film so revered in Punjab that there were lines many kilometres long to purchase tickets. He also starred in the Punjabi films Nanak Dukhiya Sub Sansar (1970) and Mele Mittran De (1972).]]

Raj Kapoor: [[11]] In this source it mentions that kapoor house was mini punjab and people were punjabi [[12]] here they say lohri was taken very seriously which is exclusivly indian punjabi dance not pathan dance. Also in this articles if you serach punjabi you will find he spoke in punjabi to his daughter in laws also expected punjabi food from them, and also has mentioned various punjabi phrases in this book

Shashi kapoor : [[13]] over here shashi mentions that his mom use to ask him to write letters to his father in punjabi and he speaks punjabi in the letter too which rejects the idea that he spoke pashto as he was born in pashto and raj kapoor was the only one who was born in peshwar and might have known pashto [[14]] here its mentioned that he spoke with dilip kumar in peshwari punjabi which is hindko which means he and dilip both spoke hindko and not pashto .. raj kapoor was hindko punjabi

Randhir Kapoor: [[15]] here randhi kapoor says that he is punjabi deep rooted all his family is. pathan was something culturlaly [[16]] here randhir kapoor clearly states that they are not pathans from peshwar and are punjabi and are urban people .. meaning they think that pathans are village people or are teh ones who lived in peshwar. he says they are not pathan from peshwar , now if he was ethncially pathan than i think living in city doesnt change the ethnicity

Rishi Kapoor:[[17]] here both the pathaniyat and punjabiyat have been used for kapoors [[18]] here he learns punjabi from his aunts meaningg his aunts are all punjabi that is from mother side punjabi orgiin in indian websites and tv channels too [[19]] all bollywood know that they are punjab with pathan culture if u wana add

Kareena Kapoor Karishma Kapoor: [[20]] [[21]] [[22]] [[23]] [[24]] [[25]] [[26]] [[27]] [[28]]

other links that they were hindko punjabis are [[29]] [[http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/obituary-of-yash — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saladin1987 (talk • contribs) 15:43, 20 September 2013 (UTC) Saladin1987 15:46, 20 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]