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==Sources== |
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It is absolutely shocking that an Encyclopaedia page should have references sourced from tabloid newspapers such as the Milligazette. This paper has a vested interest in slandering the Dawoodi Bohra community, and it is therefore very inappropriate and irresponsible to include sources like this. |
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It would be best if references were sourced from the Institute of Ismaili Studies or the Encyclopaedia of Islam which is no where near as biassed as these sources and are considered authoritative. |
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It seems very clear the Progressive Bohras want to have a monopoly over anything Bohra related on Wikipedia. This must stop as it paints an inaccurate picture of the Bohras. |
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== Section "Activities" == |
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I believe the article in its current form is very short. I have added some of the admirable achievements of the Late Syedna at the end of the activities section. [[User:Aftab104|Aftab104]] ([[User talk:Aftab104|talk]]) 15:28, 7 July 2015 (UTC) |
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:I've removed those parts not corroborated by [[WP:SECONDARY|secondary sources]]. Also, please try to keep a [[WP:NPOV|neutral and factual tone]]. [[User:Qwertyus|Q<small>VVERTYVS</small>]] <small>([[User talk:Qwertyus|hm?]])</small> 16:39, 7 July 2015 (UTC) |
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::Thanks [[User:Qwertyus|Q<small>VVERTYVS</small>]]. [[User:Aftab104|Aftab104]] ([[User talk:Aftab104|talk]]) 10:22, 9 July 2015 (UTC) |
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The fact that women had been called to a [[burqa]] is completely wrong. The attire is called "Rida" and does not involve a face veil (which is a distinguishing feature of the burqa). I have added a small description of the Rida to enrich the encyclopedia. [[User:Aftab104|Aftab104]] ([[User talk:Aftab104|talk]]) 11:29, 10 July 2015 (UTC) |
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:Again, please stick to sources. [[User:Qwertyus|Q<small>VVERTYVS</small>]] <small>([[User talk:Qwertyus|hm?]])</small> 14:35, 10 July 2015 (UTC) |
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Hello fellow Wikipedians, |
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Added some more verbiage on the community kitchen project with exact wording from the [[WP:IRS|sources]]. [[User:Aftab104|Aftab104]] ([[User talk:Aftab104|talk]]) 12:46, 11 July 2015 (UTC) |
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== Proposed merger of 2014 Mumbai Stampede == |
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While the [[2014_Mumbai_stampede|2014 stampede]] is related to the death of the Late Syedna, it will be inaccurate to redirect a user searching for information on that event to this page. This page represents the biography of an indidiviual. Hence, it should contain information about the life and times of the individual rather than a particular event that, in fact, happened after his death. The user proposing this change please cite which catagory of [[Wikipedia:Redirect|Purpose of redirects]], this particular merger is related to? [[User:Aftab104|Aftab104]] ([[User talk:Aftab104|talk]]) 13:35, 9 July 2015 (UTC) |
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:"Sub-topics or other topics which are described or listed within a wider article." You're wrong, events caused by the death of a person are often considered part of their biography. [[User:Qwertyus|Q<small>VVERTYVS</small>]] <small>([[User talk:Qwertyus|hm?]])</small> 15:25, 9 July 2015 (UTC) |
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== Criticism section == |
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Cheers.—[[User:InternetArchiveBot|'''<span style="color:darkgrey;font-family:monospace">InternetArchiveBot</span>''']] <span style="color:green;font-family:Rockwell">([[User talk:InternetArchiveBot|Report bug]])</span> 15:25, 24 December 2017 (UTC) |
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The criticism section of this article was lengthy and made extremely serious accusations against the subject. I know nothing about this topic, but I ''do'' know that a source like [http://www.sabrang.com/cc/comold/mar00/syedna.htm] or [http://www.sabrang.com/cc/comold/mar00/spreport.htm] is simply not reliable enough to support the kinds of strong statements being made here. As the subject of the article is recently deceased, and because the information is entirely unsupported by reliable sources, I'm taking it out until we can get something more reliable. [[User talk:Agtx|<span style="color:#8B008B">'''agt'''</span><span style="color:#000000">x</span>]] 00:35, 21 July 2015 (UTC) |
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:: [[User talk:Agtx]] What makes you think the sources are unreliable? they are written by a third party journalist and is a reputed publication and the accusations are well recorded in the Nathwani commision report : a high level fact finding commission report which is also cited, besides other news sources are also cited. WP:DUE is violated if not all points of views are stated.[[User:Summichum|Summichum]] ([[User talk:Summichum|talk]]) 02:36, 21 July 2015 (UTC) |
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Page seems a little choppy. Would like to rearrange the texts and images. Any help and pointers will be appreciated. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Samwode|Samwode]] ([[User talk:Samwode#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Samwode|contribs]]) 03:22, 3 May 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:::No, that's not what [[WP:DUE]] says. It starts off from the very beginning talking about reliable sources. The sabrang sources come from a website full of broken links, with no attributed author, and frankly no guarantees of reliability at all. [http://www.rediff.com/news/special/special-a-lone-womans-battle-against-bohra-priestly-tyranny/20110323.htm This one] is a first person essay, a primary source that again is not reliable, yet is the only source for accusations like "Dawoodi Bohra localities resound with stories of being threatened, ostracized, beaten and in some instances even being driven to suicide." Even if we take the rediff source to be reliable, it doesn't come close to providing support for that sentence. The Nathwani Commission Report itself is, as far as I can tell, ''not'' actually cited. |
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{{re|Samwode}} Sure, what do you need pointers about? Feel free to reach out to me and/or copy edit /restructure the page. [[User:Murtaza.aliakbar|Murtaza.aliakbar]] ([[User talk:Murtaza.aliakbar|talk]]) 16:59, 9 July 2020 (UTC) |
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:::Then we've got the last paragraph, which makes mostly unsourced statements, and outright says things like "[r]efusal results into different forms of harassment and in much case excommunication and hence Burhanuddin should not be awarded." That's advocating a specific position, and is not even ''close'' to a neutral point of view. |
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:::I'm willing to allow that the Tehelka source seems decent, so perhaps the paragraphs about the financial troubles should be replaced. [[User talk:Agtx|<span style="color:#8B008B">'''agt'''</span><span style="color:#000000">x</span>]] 04:14, 21 July 2015 (UTC) |
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::: ok so please do the needful instead of completely blanking the section.[[User talk:Agtx]] |
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[edit]Page seems a little choppy. Would like to rearrange the texts and images. Any help and pointers will be appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Samwode (talk • contribs) 03:22, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
@Samwode: Sure, what do you need pointers about? Feel free to reach out to me and/or copy edit /restructure the page. Murtaza.aliakbar (talk) 16:59, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
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