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Thank you for considering, [[User:Landplane123|Landplane123]] ([[User talk:Landplane123|talk]]) 03:26, 18 June 2024 (UTC)Landplane123
Thank you for considering, [[User:Landplane123|Landplane123]] ([[User talk:Landplane123|talk]]) 03:26, 18 June 2024 (UTC)Landplane123

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== Why is the Cuomo opinion on the Trump case being left out? ==
== Why is the Cuomo opinion on the Trump case being left out? ==

Revision as of 07:11, 27 June 2024

Longest-tenured governor

I am not a native English speaking editor, but the sentence "At the time of his resignation, he was the longest-tenured governor in the United States" made me thinking what it really mean, so I decided to reword it better. However I do not have a source for the date I used for the beginning date (January 7, 2019), it is my own research, but there was no source before my edit either. I found that before him Butch Otter had this record, who served continuously from January 1, 2007. So please double check it! Thanks! JSoos (talk) 19:16, 29 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Mateodepalacios: I understand, it is much easier to delete a relevant statement with error, than correct it. So I was wrong, before him it was not Otter but Gary Herbert, so the beginning date is 4 January 2021. Still I can not put reference, only the snapshot of the list of current governors article proves it (Ordered Inauguration column shows it):

JSoos (talk) 18:23, 5 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@BarrelProof: Q: "Who really cares about this very narrow category of distinction?" A: I think if somebody serves a position for a very long time, making a record long service among all the governors, may be worth to mention. JSoos (talk) 17:14, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@BarrelProof: It is not true, what you are saying in the edit history. 1.: It was not me, who wrote it in te lead section, I just improved it. (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Andrew_Cuomo&diff=1043084630&oldid=1042973886&diffmode=source) 2. You do not need to start a talk about it, because it is already here, and you are not reacting here! JSoos (talk) 18:22, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict) Sorry for not noticing this discussion before acting. For some reason the first ping did not work (the second one did). I also had not realized that the sentence had a longer history than I was aware of, as I had not seen this Talk page discussion. I just think it is a relatively minor point, and the lead section of the article should be brief and should be only a distilled summary. I certainly have no problem with mentioning this in the body of the article, but I lean against its inclusion in the lead section. For the record, at the time of my removal of the sentence, it said "From Utah governor Gary Herbert's retirement on January 4, 2021, until he resigned, he was the longest-tenured governor in the United States still in position." Can we at least move some of the detail into the article body? —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 18:25, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for answering! The original sentence was amended to the fact of his resignation, as "At the time of his resignation, he had the longest tenure of any incumbent governor...". I think it is worth to mention in the lead, that he was the "longest serving" at that time, details of from/to could be unnecessary details which could be in a note eg. as: "From Utah governor Gary Herbert's retirement on January 4, 2021, until he resigned on August 23, 2021, he was the longest tenured governor still in position, serving 3887 days." It is connecting to the facts as written before about his fathers long service. JSoos (talk) 18:54, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

How about just moving some of the detail out of the lead section, as I did in this edit? —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 19:54, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
That is fine for me. JSoos (talk) 09:12, 11 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Downplaying the Governor’s delayed response to Covid.

The section on the state’s response to Covid needs to be updated to correctly reflect the facts. Throughout January and February Cuomo downplayed the threat of Covid to New Yorkers as well as fighting efforts to quarantine travel into and out of the state. Specifically statements such as these: "We went through this before: Zika virus, Ebola, et cetera. But let's have some connection to the reality of the situation, and as the doctor said, catching the flu right now is a much greater risk than anything that has anything to do with Coronavirus." Governor Cuomo said and Cuomo rips attempts to ban New Yorkers' travel to other states, vowing to sue Rhode Island

In fact many leaders in state and local government did a disservice to New Yorkers by continuing to present Covid as a non issue to New York State citizens. “It is important to support the Chinese community in New York City. Unfortunately many businesses and restaurants in Chinatown, Flushing and Sunset Park are suffering because some customers are afraid of the coronavirus. But those fears are not based on facts and science. The risk of infection to New Yorkers is low. There is no need to avoid public spaces. I urge everyone to dine and shop as usual,” said Speaker Corey Johnson. and “As the world grapples with coronavirus, the de Blasio administration is waging the battle with facts, not fear,” said Deputy Mayor for Health and Human Services Dr. Raul Perea-Henze. “Thanks to the work of our agencies, New York City is prepared for coronavirus and open for business.

This article should reflect the failure of the Cuomo Administration early on to recognize the threat Covid presented. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.190.233.44 (talk) 01:48, 30 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Controversies

Official Corruption

I feel that adding this content at the end of this paragraph would improve this article:

In May 2023, the Supreme Court unanimously overturned his conviction.[1][2]

In March 2018, a federal jury in Manhattan convicted Percoco on felony charges of solicitation of bribes and honest services fraud for over $315,000 in bribes he took from two people seeking official favors on behalf of an energy company, Competitive Power Ventures Inc. Prosecutors described him as Cuomo's "right-hand man".[3][4][5] Following Percoco's conviction, Cuomo released a statement declaring that he would respect the jury's verdict and that "there is no tolerance for any violation of the public trust".[6][7][8] In September 2018, Judge Valerie Caproni sentenced Percoco to 6 years in prison saying "I hope that this sentence will be heard in Albany. I hope it will serve as a warning to others in public service."[9] In May 2023, the Supreme Court unanimously overturned his conviction.[10][11]

Thank you for considering, Landplane123 (talk) 03:26, 18 June 2024 (UTC)Landplane123[reply]

References

  1. ^ "Supreme Court throws out convictions in sweeping New York corruption probe". NBC News. May 11, 2023. Retrieved June 17, 2024.
  2. ^ "U.S. Supreme Court tosses former Cuomo aide's bribery conviction". Reuters. May 11, 2023. Retrieved June 17, 2024.
  3. ^ Rahim, Saqib (March 14, 2018). "Jury finds former Cuomo aide guilty of gas deal corruption". Energy Wire. Archived from the original on April 11, 2018. Retrieved April 10, 2018.
  4. ^ Wang, Vivian; Weiser, Benjamin (March 14, 2018). "Joseph Percoco, Ex-Cuomo Aide, Found Guilty in Corruption Trial". The New York Times. p. A1. Archived from the original on March 14, 2018. Retrieved March 15, 2018.
  5. ^ "Joseph Percoco, Former Executive Aide And Campaign Manager To N.Y. Governor, Convicted Of Accepting More Than $300,000 In Bribes". March 13, 2018 (Press release). United States Department of Justice. Archived from the original on March 16, 2018. Retrieved March 15, 2018.
  6. ^ Wang, Vivian; Weiser, Benjamin (March 13, 2018). "Joseph Percoco, Ex-Cuomo Aide, Found Guilty in Corruption Trial". The New York Times. Archived from the original on August 30, 2018. Retrieved August 31, 2018.
  7. ^ "Cuomo Reacts To Percoco Verdict". Nystateofpolitics.com. Archived from the original on August 20, 2018. Retrieved August 31, 2018.
  8. ^ "Percoco conviction hurts Cuomo, observers say". March 14, 2018. Archived from the original on August 20, 2018. Retrieved August 31, 2018.
  9. ^ "Percoco sentenced to 6 years in prison for corruption". politico.com. September 20, 2018. Archived from the original on March 9, 2021. Retrieved March 14, 2021.
  10. ^ "Supreme Court throws out convictions in sweeping New York corruption probe". NBC News. May 11, 2023. Retrieved June 17, 2024.
  11. ^ "U.S. Supreme Court tosses former Cuomo aide's bribery conviction". Reuters. May 11, 2023. Retrieved June 17, 2024.

Why is the Cuomo opinion on the Trump case being left out?

Cuomo was the former AG and governor of the same state, so it seems relevant enough to include a short amount of content on his opinion on the Trump election interference and tax fraud (over hush money) case. This isn't to say I agree with that opinion, so nobody should wonder if I'm trying to push something. I think the recent edit was brought in good faith and we should consider keeping it. albeit perhaps with minor tweaks. I realize folks are tied in knots over the presidential election, but we shouldn't let those politics sway our work here. Stefen Towers among the rest! GabGruntwerk 07:09, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]