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March 2021
Hello, I'm Baingan Curry. I noticed that you removed or changed content in Srivastava, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been reverted and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at the tutorial on citing sources. If you think you made a mistake, you can send me a message on Baingan Curry. Thank you. Baingan Curry (talk) 12:55, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
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Hello, I'm Vanamonde93. An edit that you recently made to Godhra train burning seemed to be a test and has been removed. If you want to practice editing, please use the sandbox. If you think a mistake was made, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks! Vanamonde (Talk) 16:57, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
Yeah true i was testing. @Vanamonde93:
Sorry Heba Aisha (talk) 17:24, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
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I am also a Bihari and I am happy that you are doing good for us. Amrapahal Pahanswan (talk) 16:35, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
- @Amrapahal Pahanswan: ure welcome.If you want me to help you to improve any other article related to bihar.Dont shy and just tell on my talk page.Heba Aisha (talk) 16:41, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
Sister, I have published article on Jagdanand Singh giving a citation by The Economics Times describing his caste,political affluence, till it was deleted. Amrapahal Pahanswan (talk) 16:48, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
- This is because you copied the whole material from source u listed there.Wikipedia takes copyright violation very seriously.So you need to write in ur own words.Second ... caste of a living person can be told only if in the source they say themselves that they belong to that particular caste group.If this is not done it amounts to WP:BLP violation.Also you should not use words like great, excellent, extraordinary etc as one of Wikipedia policy called WP:Puffery and WP:POV tells us to maintain neutrality while writing an article.Start once again that article. ...good luck. Heba Aisha (talk) 08:19, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
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Majority of People who use " Yadav " surname in Haryana are " Ahirs" only. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Har1990 (talk • contribs) 20:31, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
I have added another source that clearly mentions " 114 were Ahirs" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Har1990 (talk • contribs) 20:33, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
Anyways I have removed the Rezang La section for now. I have also removed the image as there was no image before.Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Har1990 (talk • contribs) 20:54, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
I have removed picture.There was no picture in past and I don't think its important to have image of particular individual in this article — Preceding unsigned comment added by Har1990 (talk • contribs) 21:11, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
Picture of Ahir King Rao Tula Ram was added . Then someone changed it and added picture of some Individual based on British Raj records. Its better not to have any image here. If you wanna include it , please tell why its necessary.Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Har1990 (talk • contribs) 21:40, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
And I am not sure which one is added first . — Preceding unsigned comment added by Har1990 (talk • contribs) 21:42, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
Peasants and Monks in British India, William R. Pinch
Dear Sis, You are doing awesome work on Wikipedia. congrats! BTW, I noticed you used Peasants and Monks in British India by William R. Pinch at several places.It is freely available here. Please see https://publishing.cdlib.org/ucpressebooks/view?docId=ft22900465 Also, for some "pure shudra" castes in early 1800s , please see https://publishing.cdlib.org/ucpressebooks/view?docId=ft22900465&chunk.id=s1.2.11&toc.depth=1&toc.id=ch2 See "Buchanan, in the early nineteenth century, had included in the term “pure shudra” the well-known designations of Kayasth, Koiri, Kurmi, Kahar, Goala, Dhanuk (archers, cultivators, palanquin bearers), Halwai (sweets vendor), Mali (flower gardener), Barai (cultivator and vendor of betel-leaf), Sonar (goldsmith), Kandu (grain parcher), and Gareri (blanket weavers and shepherds).[108]". If you click on the number 108, you will notice that he is talking about Bihar and Patna only. 108. Buchanan, Bihar and Patna, 1811–1812, 1:329–39; Martin, Eastern India, 2:466–70. Buchanan notes that in Gorakhpur both Halwais and Kandus were included as Vaishyas and thus considered twice-born (Martin, Eastern India, 2:465). Also, that chapter refers to North India only. Hence as a general suggestion, we need to be careful before generalizing and need to qualify these groups with "Bihar/Patna" as they may be under different classification elsewhere whenever we use this chapter. As an example, this may not apply to same caste names from other states. For example, Sonar in Maharashtra came from Brahmins and were called Daivadnya Brahmins - and they had thread ceremonies too. I was looking at some of your recent edits and noticed that you were generalizing this statement for disparate groups on some pages. Hence the suggestion. Hope the link helps. Best Regards,LukeEmily (talk) 21:46, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
- well thanks..... i will see sources you share.....i Am sick of people trying to glorify caste by removing images etc etc. My edits are on the basis of few books i have read on Bihar's caste and polity which i use in almost all edits.I will see these sources too.ThanksHeba Aisha (talk) 23:45, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
- You mentioned some editors do not like SUNY press which is an academic press hence I was surprised. Do you know any instances where they have reverted edits from SUNY press? The authors of SUNY press are usually well known scholars.LukeEmily (talk) 22:40, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
- No, not any incident yet.But I have seen them inadvertently reverted sourced content if some discrepancies are found.Heba Aisha (talk) 23:59, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
AWARD for you
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I have seen your recent activities.YOU have improved many caste articles by putting suitable images which are generally hard to find.SO you deserve it.CONGO 106.67.90.215 (talk) 02:20, 15 August 2020 (UTC) |
I didn't knew that....adding images brings dis 😀Heba Aisha (talk) 02:59, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
Hi Heba, thank you for your edits
My respects to the superior knowledge that you have attained over the years. Thanks for contributing to wikipedia. I saw your recent edits of Kayastha page. You have added a few theories that claim that Bhumihar and Kayastha of Bihar are Shudra. You probably do understand that these contentions have been debated for ages and both these groups have proved beyond doubt their high ritual status in religious as well as legal courts. Nevertheless the contention did exist and you are welcome to add the same to the page. But to be fair, the other side of the contention should also be fairly added. The decision of Banaras pandits regarding these may be impartiality added.
As per Padma Purana, Bhavishya Purana and the decision of Banaras Pandits in the year 1779 AD on varna status of various sub-groups of Kayastha, they are considered to be Brahmins.[1]
Add the same to Varna/classification section of the page, if you find it useful and relevant. Thanks in advance. I hope you continue the good work.
Vikram Q1W2 (talk) 09:14, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Vikram Q1W2: Hi first of all thanks for saying all this.But,after talking with the senior editors on Wikipedia like Sitush and Utcursch(He is an administrator) i came to know that pre independence era sources on caste related pages are not considered neutral sources as for example: Todd used to write about Rajputs and most of the later historians recognise him as biased author.Same is the case with various communities as those who were close to Britishers due to various reasons tried to prove their higher status and upward mobilisation was evident.As for example: The Kushwaha community, they are also shudra but they tried to assume kshatriya status due to their closeness to the british provided their role in opium production.
If you have doubt then you can ask the above two editors i mentioned or can discuss on Wikipedia india related page discussion forum.If i add they will revert it sooner or later as source you provided is of period before 1947.Heba Aisha (talk) 09:36, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
No issues, I can provide you a post-1947 book which refers to this letter. Will that help you be impartial? Vikram Q1W2 (talk) 09:43, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
- Will see and if quality of the source i mean publication is good i must add.Heba Aisha (talk) 09:46, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
Yes it is a standard book. Milton Israel’s book of 1987 refers to this translation of Gupte of 1779 AD letter of Banaras Pandits to Peshwa Darbar.[2] Vikram Q1W2 (talk) 09:58, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
- What new things you want to be added??Heba Aisha (talk) 10:02, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
On the other hand, as per Padma Purana, Bhavishya Purana and the decision of Banaras Pandits in the year 1779 AD on varna status of various sub-groups of Kayastha, they are considered to be Brahmins.[3][4]
Add the same to Varna/classification section of the Kayastha page. Thanks in advance. I hope you continue the good work. Vikram Q1W2 (talk) 10:17, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
- Bro just see the section above the verna section in Kayastha article.....the same source and the same thing is already thereHeba Aisha (talk) 14:35, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
- Also, see last passage of varna section....here also CKP is noted as equal to brahmins and its clearly written dereHeba Aisha (talk) 14:49, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
I can't see these sources- anywhere on Kayastha page nor in the reference list. Which page are you looking at? Even if they are there reformatting may be done, since new regional sources have been recently added by you. In my opinion, the above mentioned statement with sources may be added before or after your additions, to present the complete contention. Hope you appreciate the concern. Vikram Q1W2 (talk) 14:57, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
- source 23 is the book of the same author.second I can't write in exactly same way i.e Descision of banaras pundits it will be the violation of WP:POV.Also i am sure padma purana and other purana as verification will not be liked by senior editors so i don't want my edits to be reverted.see for edample Kudumbar article.Here also people who were concerned wrote a lot of good things and Sitush reverted all those things in such a manner that now nothing is there.check the history of that article. YOU shud pray that they don't examine Srivastava article. I doubt they can do similar thing with that too.So chill as some of the sentence still write Kayastha as brahmins.You just glance through their edit history you will know which type of sources they don't wantHeba Aisha (talk) 15:14, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
- see these edits https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/963210376
■https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/963210741
Hey bro, let me give it to you straight, you should pray that your impersonation as a women or a muslim to spread caste and religion based hatred is not discovered soon. The trick that you are trying here has been played for too long on youtube and other platforms. See you after Bihar elections. Till then. Vikram Q1W2 (talk) 15:24, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
●■No personal commentsHeba Aisha (talk) 15:30, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
●■Also for your allegations see WP:NotcensoredHeba Aisha (talk) 15:44, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
References
- ^ Gupte, TV. "Appendix I.(page 7)". Translation of 1779 AD letter of Banaras Pandits to Peshwa Darbar regarding varna status of various Kayastha sub-groups. p. 8.
"Kayasthas are said to be of three sorts (kinds)— (1) the Chitragupta Kayasthas (2) Dhalbhaga Gatri Kshatriya Kayasthas and (3) Kayasthas of the mixed blood. The origin of Chitraguptavanshi Kayasthas is given in the Puranas. He was born from the body of Brahma while he was contemplating how he should know the good and evil acts of living beings. He was a brilliant person with pen and ink in his hands. He was known as Chitragupta and was placed near the God of death. He was appointed to record the good and evil acts of men. He was a Brahmin possessed of supra sensible knowledge. He was a god sharing the offerings at sacrifices. All the Brahmins offer him oblations of rice before taking their meals. He is called Kayastha because of his origin from the body of Brahma. Many descendants of his bearing different Gotras still exist on this earth. From this it will be seen that Kayastha Brahmins of Karhada and Khandesha are the Brahma-Kayasthas. Now about the origin of Chandraseniya Kshatriya Kayastha
- ^ Milton Israel and N.K.Wagle, ed. (1987). Religion and Society in Maharashtra. Center for South Asian Studies, University of Toronto, Canada. p. 173.
- ^ Gupte, TV. "Appendix I.(page 7)". Translation of 1779 AD letter of Banaras Pandits to Peshwa Darbar regarding varna status of various Kayastha sub-groups. p. 8.
"Kayasthas are said to be of three sorts (kinds)— (1) the Chitragupta Kayasthas (2) Dhalbhaga Gatri Kshatriya Kayasthas and (3) Kayasthas of the mixed blood. The origin of Chitraguptavanshi Kayasthas is given in the Puranas. He was born from the body of Brahma while he was contemplating how he should know the good and evil acts of living beings. He was a brilliant person with pen and ink in his hands. He was known as Chitragupta and was placed near the God of death. He was appointed to record the good and evil acts of men. He was a Brahmin possessed of supra sensible knowledge. He was a god sharing the offerings at sacrifices. All the Brahmins offer him oblations of rice before taking their meals. He is called Kayastha because of his origin from the body of Brahma. Many descendants of his bearing different Gotras still exist on this earth. From this it will be seen that Kayastha Brahmins of Karhada and Khandesha are the Brahma-Kayasthas. Now about the origin of Chandraseniya Kshatriya Kayastha
- ^ Milton Israel and N.K.Wagle, ed. (1987). Religion and Society in Maharashtra. Center for South Asian Studies, University of Toronto, Canada. p. 173.
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Hi this is for writing about Kushwaha community.You helped to bring it to the world that community is not irrelevant as the article portrayed earlier lest you edited it.I am thankful to you for this but hope that the shudra status should be changed as we are not shudra.Thanks 2402:8100:3A07:C5D6:0:0:1F8D:483B (talk) 03:27, 16 August 2020 (UTC) |
- I m sorry if you find it offensive but this is an Encyclopedia and we write what is true.What you are saying and for the purpose you are here is not new.See above a person had same problem as of yours and now he's here with another account to revert all my edits.Hope you not take it in another way.RegardsHeba Aisha (talk) 03:38, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
A kitten for you!
You are welcome.
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- @Fylindfotberserk:....thanks btw reason for the gift??Heba Aisha (talk) 07:28, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
- Firstly, because you thanked my edit. Secondly, you seem to be doing a nice work here. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 07:33, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
- Glad to know that.I m happy that someone recognised it.Thnk u so much.Heba Aisha (talk) 07:35, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
- Keep doing the good work and keep discussing with the Wikipedia community whenever you get confused over something. You'll get more of these barnstars and 'gifts'. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 07:41, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for guidance.I'll😊Heba Aisha (talk) 07:43, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
- I reported them. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 09:53, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
- He is reverting all my past edits and recently i was creating an article that too.Can i do something in my setting to stop him.I m on mobileHeba Aisha (talk) 09:54, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
- Restore your edits. But add proper sources like Kamangiri art article, which is unsourced. Secondly, do not make changes on gut feeling like you did here. Change content using source or consult people like Sitush who are well versed in caste/tribe related topics. Sheeba Asia got blocked/indefed See Here. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:02, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
Thanku....i was about to add refrence to the article but that message really disturbed me.Btw he was not due to image at Dhangar article.I never add anything without source.Is it possible that someone can misuse my account in the same way.How to protect future redirects..?I m not much techno savy....let me confess.Heba Aisha (talk) 10:07, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
- The new one also got blocked. They may try again. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 11:13, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
What to do?Heba Aisha (talk) 14:29, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
- Ms.Heba Aisha I don't mean to snoop on your private conversation with Mr.Fylindfotberserk but you can use Wikipedia:Administrator_intervention_against_vandalism and Wikipedia:Requests_for_administrator_attention. LukeEmily (talk) 16:10, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
- There is another, relevant for this kind of troll WP:UAA. Thanks LukeEmily. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 16:19, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
- Thnks both of u @Fylindfotberserk: and @LukeEmily:.@Materialscientist: has blocked another Sockpuppet of the troller @Wikipage Citecheck:😀cheers¡Heba Aisha (talk) 23:49, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
- Nice. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 07:09, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
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I have been following your edits and your hard work certainly deserves a lot of praise. |
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- Early morning surprise gift for me....lot of thanks @LukeEmily:Heba Aisha (talk) 23:51, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
Battle of Maonda
Please check the article Battle of Maonda and Mandholi. There seems to be a lot of changes and removal of trusted sources like Jadunath Sarkar with personal remarks. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2402:8100:387E:59A6:1:0:54A3:1926 (talk) 05:47, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
Please check I have written in my own words. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2402:8100:3853:2302:1:0:54E7:55F1 (talk) 06:48, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
- calm down report on administrator attention against vandalismHeba Aisha (talk) 07:46, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
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User:LukeSmily
This user left a message on my talk page and your talk page suspecting we are sockpuppets. Interestingly, it happened seconds after I replied on the Rajput page supporting that image you supported. Maybe some admin should intervene and see who LukeSmily is. Obviously, he is after me based on his name. LukeEmily (talk) 19:10, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
- i don't understand what u are saying.I was trolled by someone u know that let me check if someone again have created redirect to my account Heba Aisha (talk) 01:23, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
- user:LukeSmily is blocked.this is exactly same what happened to me.Someone is also trolling you like that editor did to me by making several accounts namely user:Sheeba Aisha, user:Hiba Aisha user:Heeba Aisha and many more......you may report here.By the way he is blocked.Heba Aisha (talk) 01:32, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
- I have checked he created a redirect to ur account.whenever u get notification regarding it plz lodge complaint on WP:UAAHeba Aisha (talk) 01:35, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
Few editing tips
Hello, Heba Aisha. Please don't move any other talk page comment as that will create further confusion. You should use a colon (see WP:Indentation) to reply to a comment rather than using an asterisk mark. Also, one should provide diffs rather copy-pasting whole comments of other editors – please see WP:Diff.
Finally, an article's talk page is meant for discussing things related to the improvement of that article. So other article or general behaviour of users should not be discussed there – please see WP:TPG. Thanks. - NitinMlk (talk) 11:15, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
Ok....Btw plz open sockpuppetry investigation against Sajaypal007 he is making personal attacks on me by making fake accounts like LukeSmily and Lukhiba.I m busy elsewhere.TqHeba Aisha (talk) 11:17, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
- An SPI case can only be opened if there is behavioural evidence between the accounts. I don't think Sajaypal007 is connected to those sockpuppets. So there is no need to open an SPI. BTW, please ignore these sockpuppets and vandals. - NitinMlk (talk) 11:26, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
Ok thank uHeba Aisha (talk) 11:27, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
Dont remove cited sources?
Please dont remove the cited sources which you did twice on Maonda battle page. Look at the publication before comparing it with older version of the book. This can be considered disruptive editing. Please keep in mind. Sajaypal007 (talk) 15:41, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
- I have left the book on talk page volume 2 no mention of battleHeba Aisha (talk) 15:42, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
- Read before writing. I said its different and newer version of the book and publication was mentioned in the source itself. See that, what you mentioned is different publication. Please dont delete without verifying those details. Sajaypal007 (talk) 16:27, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
- also plz put sources in the format applicable on wikipedia you do not mention detail about book or its link etcHeba Aisha (talk) 16:36, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
About the photo you added on the Meenas wiki page
Why you have added a photo with the caption "Meenas, Hindoos of low caste, vagrants, Delhi."?
1. if the source is old does not mean it is correct or reviewed work. How a photo dated -1868 - 1875 is relevant? We are in 2020, do Meenas still live and are vagrants? Do you know how many divisions are there within Meena tribe?
2. Meenas are not natives of Delhi, as photo caption is stating.
3. Meenas in Rajasthan come under tribe, NOT a CASTE and do not fall under Hindu cast systems, hence, no point in stating low or hight cast.
So, the photo and caption are misleading and do not represent the correct status of Meenas. So, please remove it or find a photo represents Meenas in factual terms. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.242.49.5 (talk) 21:44, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
- what i find after tiring search was that pic only if u have another one give it i will replace tqHeba Aisha (talk) 07:01, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
A few photos of Meena/Mina tribe: 1822 to 1890s..to replace the current photo from Meenas wiki page.
- http://www.smb-digital.de/eMuseumPlus?service=ExternalInterface&module=collection&objectId=1633129&viewType=detailView
- http://www.smb-digital.de/eMuseumPlus?service=ExternalInterface&module=collection&objectId=1633081
- http://www.smb-digital.de/eMuseumPlus?service=ExternalInterface&module=collection&objectId=1633126
- http://www.smb-digital.de/eMuseumPlus?service=ExternalInterface&module=collection&objectId=1633069
- Plz upload on wikimedia commons. I will surely replace. Images are good.Heba Aisha (talk) 00:15, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
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- Hi GeneralNotability i think it was misunderstanding from my side.Due to prolonged discussion on an atricle i came to conclusion that it was Sajaypal007.But i think i was wrong.As a number of new accounts have been formed to attack me i was perplexed.Hence i want this sockpuppet investigation to be closed.Heba Aisha (talk) 00:47, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
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Content about racist views of Richard Nixon for indians was removed
Declassified documents from the Richard Nixon Presidential Library show that Nixon held deeply racist views for the Indian people and sexual hatred for Indian Women as revealed by author Gary J. Bass. [1]Describing Indian women as "undoubtedly" the most unattractive women in the world. Also describing Indian people as the most "sexless" and "nothing" people in the world . At one point comparing indian people with "African blacks " , stating that atleast they have an "animallike charm" but the Indians were "ack, pathetic" . [1]
This content is sourced from a recent article in the NYT but it was still removed . Could you have a look ? Meethamonkey (talk) 06:21, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
- Which article ??Heba Aisha (talk) 11:14, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
Ok i got it .....will see when get time.Heba Aisha (talk) 11:18, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
References
- ^ a b Bass, Gary J. (2020-09-03). "Opinion | The Terrible Cost of Presidential Racism". The New York Times. ISSN 0362-4331. Retrieved 2020-09-05.
Hi
Regarding the removal of content from talk page, I did remove only two discussion, both were related to you. You put fake warning of edit war and block. Edit war is considered when you make atleast 3 reverts within 24 hrs. And that was not that. I see you also removed such fake warnings from your page put up by someone and its ok. Because they were fake warnings. You can remove this discussion too if you wish. And for Rajput page, I again ask you to keep the discussion short and relevant to the matter. Other matters if you want to discuss then create separate discussion page for that. @Kautilya3 I believe has not much time in hand so try to keep it comprehensible. Thanks. Sajaypal007 (talk) 13:57, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
- The warning to me was from a sockpuppet and not only me but admins also removed it from my page.check history.Heba Aisha (talk) 14:18, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
- I will post some comments on the Talk:Rajputs page. Both of you need to keep the discussion focused on the content, and avoid all conduct-related discussions. Conduct can be discussed on User talk pages, if need be. But most of the time, it is not productive to do so.
- Edit war occurs
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Hi, regarding your constant following of my edits
If you don't mind I think I feel like you are following my edits and then try to edit that and related pages. For singular incident I think it wont be any problem, but lately I am feeling that for every history related article i edit you will reach there and edit it. It feels like I am being watched everytime. It may also lead to some conflict if you continouosly edit after my edits where you earlier never edited. We already have our differences in other articles and if you keep on doing this, we may get other conflicts on some other pages, I request you to not do such things. You never in your edit history ever touched those articles ever, you even had little knowledge about the subject, (by look of that talk page), nonetheless as soon as I edited that you will reach on that page and edit it alongwith other related pages. This may amount to Wikipedia:Harassment#Wikihounding, so I will suggest you refrain from such acts in future. Sajaypal007 (talk) 07:16, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
- Plz i just corrected citation and didn't touch even a word on the article.And anyone can improve any article.Harrassment happens when anyone tries to inhibit other but instead i m supporting ur edits in the articles.Heba Aisha (talk) 08:39, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
- Please read the rule carefully. To quote a part, "Even if the individual edits themselves are not disruptive per se, "following another user around", if done to cause distress, or if accompanied by tendentiousness, personal attacks, or other disruptive behavior, may become a very serious matter and could result in blocks and other editing restrictions." Your constant following is causing distress for me. History of Rajasthan is my field of interest, I have never seen you editing anything related to Rajasthan history before our confrontation, even today you got confused Chunda of Mewar with Chunda of Marwar, it says how much you know about the subject. Anyway my point is please do not follow my edits, there are different ways to cite sources, mine is different from yours. And also in don't create multiple discussion, I asked you here, you should reply here instead of going over my talk page and replying half of the answer there. I don't have so much free time in mind end as you do and can't discuss on multiple fronts. So please request you not to follow my edits. You have been doing that since last month after Rajput origin controversy. I never follow your edits or make edits on your interest pages after you edit them. Last time I am requesting you to not follow my edits, it cause constant distress and inhibit my ability to work freely on wikipedia. I hope you understand that. Thank you in advance. Sajaypal007 (talk) 09:31, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
- Ok not follow ur edits but history is my field of interest and it is possible that i could edit other articles related to Rajasthani history.And you may not feel problem for that.Heba Aisha (talk) 10:51, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
- Sajaypal007, (talk page stalker) I dont think that this user is hounding your edits in a bad cause. According to the information page
Correct use of an editor's history includes (but is not limited to) fixing unambiguous errors or violations of Wikipedia policy, or correcting related problems on multiple articles. In fact, such practices are recommended..
As the user said that he/she only corrected citations (fixed unambiguous errors), therefore it isn't prohibited. If the user is really watching your edits in a good cause then it's permitted. In the start, my edits were also watched by some users, but that helped me to learn more and find my errors. Being watched by users, made me more attentive. Soon, they left watching my edits when I didn't react to them. However, I'll also suggest this user to keep the discussion at single place, not to make it scattered. Thank you. Empire AS Talk! 11:59, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
- Sajaypal007, (talk page stalker) I dont think that this user is hounding your edits in a bad cause. According to the information page
- Thank u Empire AS.....Yar see he just edited Lakha Singh...Yes i visited there to see his edit history....but soon i found requirement of edits in other articles too....so i edited Mokal Singh and created a new article Chunda Sisodia too......i m not strictly bound to an article but working on a number of articles and number of subjects.Heba Aisha (talk) 12:04, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
- It's right to follow any user's edits in a good cause like correcting errors and problem as stated above. But not the contributions be followed for disruption or personal attacks. As I see, you just expanded refs and corrected grammar. So, I wouldn't say it harassment. Thank you. Empire AS Talk! 12:18, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
- You don't know our dispute history. Our dispute is still going on another page. Also this is not first time, she edited some other articles after me and not for fixing my errors. It happened many a times while we are already in dispute on a page. Regarding that you should read the policy which I quoted verbatim above. Good faith edits can be considered as harrasment if you are constantly doing that, and that too with a guy you have been in a dispute. And I already asked her to not do that it is inhibiting my working on wikipedia and making the environment here distressful. Also I my citation style is different, its not like there is a necessity to link google books, its not a wikipedia rule. So I didn't commit any mistake at all. If she want link google books in wikipedia there are thousands of links she can work on. @HebaAisha I am again asking you to please stop this.
- It's right to follow any user's edits in a good cause like correcting errors and problem as stated above. But not the contributions be followed for disruption or personal attacks. As I see, you just expanded refs and corrected grammar. So, I wouldn't say it harassment. Thank you. Empire AS Talk! 12:18, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
- Ok not follow ur edits but history is my field of interest and it is possible that i could edit other articles related to Rajasthani history.And you may not feel problem for that.Heba Aisha (talk) 10:51, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
- Please read the rule carefully. To quote a part, "Even if the individual edits themselves are not disruptive per se, "following another user around", if done to cause distress, or if accompanied by tendentiousness, personal attacks, or other disruptive behavior, may become a very serious matter and could result in blocks and other editing restrictions." Your constant following is causing distress for me. History of Rajasthan is my field of interest, I have never seen you editing anything related to Rajasthan history before our confrontation, even today you got confused Chunda of Mewar with Chunda of Marwar, it says how much you know about the subject. Anyway my point is please do not follow my edits, there are different ways to cite sources, mine is different from yours. And also in don't create multiple discussion, I asked you here, you should reply here instead of going over my talk page and replying half of the answer there. I don't have so much free time in mind end as you do and can't discuss on multiple fronts. So please request you not to follow my edits. You have been doing that since last month after Rajput origin controversy. I never follow your edits or make edits on your interest pages after you edit them. Last time I am requesting you to not follow my edits, it cause constant distress and inhibit my ability to work freely on wikipedia. I hope you understand that. Thank you in advance. Sajaypal007 (talk) 09:31, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
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Hi Heba, Thanks for that badge. Best Regards. LukeEmily (talk) 18:21, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
- welcome....keep doing good edits and i will be updating ur badge as per number of edits and days passed on wiki.Heba Aisha (talk) 20:09, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
- Please may I request you and NitinMlk to participate in the Rajput talk page discussion? Thanks LukeEmily (talk) 16:14, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
- welcome....keep doing good edits and i will be updating ur badge as per number of edits and days passed on wiki.Heba Aisha (talk) 20:09, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
Hi, I saw that you are using {{Apprentice Editor}} on your user page. However, I'll suggest you to use the Template:Service awards. It will automatically upgrade your awards. What you need to do is to just update your edits. It's just a suggestion otherwise you are using the award template that is right too. See my awards page. Hope it works. Thank you. Empire AS Talk! 01:55, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks.... i m learning various features of wikipedia slowly slowly.Btw thanks for suggesting.Heba Aisha (talk) 08:17, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
- Great, However you indented your reply multiple times. Just increase one colon (:) before your every post. See WP:INDENT for more. Thank you. Empire AS Talk! 09:43, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks.... i m learning various features of wikipedia slowly slowly.Btw thanks for suggesting.Heba Aisha (talk) 08:17, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
- Thnaks...now did as you advised.Heba Aisha (talk) 12:17, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
- 😀. I got confused! Empire AS Talk! 12:31, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
- In my last comment i indented in the way u advised.Heba Aisha (talk) 01:53, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
- May be. But I don't see that. Now, in your latest reply to me, the indentation again went wrong. Just increase only 1 colon (:) than the previous reply. You'll learn that soon. Thank you. Empire AS Talk! 04:02, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
- okHeba Aisha (talk) 15:17, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
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If you see that kind of edit on "Awadhiya" next time, kindly revert it. Obviously a sock of Prakash Baghel Raj. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 07:48, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
Ok...i will.Heba Aisha (talk) 07:52, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
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2020 Hathras gang rape and murder Twitter Sources
Hi Heba, I saw that you removed the twitter citations from the article saying "Twitter shouldnt be used....need a reliable source". I added those citations, they are reliable because all 3 of them were from official Twitter accounts of Agra Police, IPRD and District Magistrate. I read WP:TWITTER and the citations all match the criteria in there, so I think they should be kept up. Also, the replaced citation of the news article doesn't show these tweets mentioned. I'm relatively new to Wikipedia, so please do point the right way :)
Here's the link to the diff : https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2020_Hathras_gang_rape_and_murder&diff=981436494&oldid=981436311&diffmode=source
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- Subins2000 hi its ok. It was not necessary though. As i have added news source.see.Heba Aisha (talk) 18:34, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
- Heba_Aisha Thank you. That news article doesn't show these official tweets though. These additional tweets would make the citation stronger. I shall add it once again Subins2000 (talk) 22:36, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
- Go ahead best of luck.Heba Aisha (talk) 22:37, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
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I have been trying to make changes in Udal of Mahoba, Alha and Banaphar since few days, but obviously English administrators cannot understand Hindi language, that's why I need help of any administrator who understands hindi language. So can you please help me. If you can than please see my reliable sources for making changes in Talk:Udal of Mahoba Sumit banaphar (talk) 12:06, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
- In case sources are reliable and are in hindi there is rule to give translation of it in quote.Then it will be accepted. Heba Aisha (talk) 13:16, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
I meant to say that, can you check the sources i provide in Talk:Udal of Mahoba.If you are interested or not busy.Sumit banaphar (talk) 16:17, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
Vaani publishers.....it will be difficult for english wikipedia to accept this source. Because many users in past tried to expand some articles with such sources but were reverted by the senior editors.Heba Aisha (talk) 17:04, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
I just want your opinions about what the source are saying which i provide to make changes in Talk:Udal of MahobaSumit banaphar (talk) 08:36, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
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- 🪔Never expected this on wikipedia thank u Mr. Fylindfotberserk and same to u.🪔Heba Aisha (talk) 09:11, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
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Thanks 245CMR👍👍Heba Aisha (talk) 11:21, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
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Hi Heba, Hi Heba Aisha, maybe we could rephrase some of Chariotrider555's edits but it seems that at least some of the edits are necessary as the modern opinions apply to *all* Rajput clans. They do not say that there are any exceptions. Many of the western scholars (other than origin section, please see the community formation section on the Rajput page) - are quite explicit in saying that they do not have Kshatriya origin and these lineages were fabricated by Bards as well as the Rajputs themselves. I found two more references from Oxford University Press. But these were not always fabricated by Brahmins. I have seen this promotion issue on Maratha pages too. Since the main Maratha page is under heavy scrutiny, several caste promoters try to add words like Suryavamshi, Kshatriya origin etc. directly to the clan subpages rather than the main page as not many people watch them. I feel that at least something should be added when there is a statement that a certain clan is or claims Suryavanshi etc. and then point the page to origin on the Rajput page. At least one or two lines that modern historians do not agree in general about all Rajput clans. What do you think? I felt like his edits were valid although probably too much detail. In short, unless there is historical evidence that a caste studied vedas at least in the 18th/19th century - it is unlikely that it is twice born irrespective of what they claim. LukeEmily (talk) 16:04, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
Ok...as u added those details..... You are more knowledgeable in the area. So I asked u.Go aheadHeba Aisha (talk) 16:13, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
Daroga is not part of Rajput community you idiot Luke Emily. Rajputs are the kshatriya as far as Vedic ritual is concerned. The word is synonymous to Kshatriya. This is not based on some bards, Charans as you fool think to be. Rana of Bharat (talk) 07:47, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
My friend Luke Emily, your questions on Sacred thread and dwija, yes Rajputs used to recite Vedas and wear sacred thread. https://books.google.co.in/books?id=0fmtjbaQPzMC&pg=PA64&dq=rajputs+rulers+vedas+reciting&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiV6LDylpPtAhV-yTgGHYdMDIoQuwUwAXoECAYQBw#v=onepage&q=rajputs%20rulers%20vedas%20reciting&f=false Rana of Bharat (talk) 08:12, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
Ms Heba, when you have lack of knowledge on the subject don't try to be the editor on it. Today anybody is entitled to do what they want like farming, business etc. Do you a large section of brahmin is in agriculture and not very literate ( if you use English educational logic). Rana of Bharat (talk) 11:11, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
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In the page Rajputization, you have added Daroga, Noniya, Rajgond etc these are not part of the community. They are separate community pls correct it. Ritual imitation doesn't mean a community becomes as such. Rana of Bharat (talk) 06:56, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
- we rely on sources while editing not the personal opinion.Oxford source clearly mention it.Heba Aisha (talk) 09:21, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
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- Don't blank sourced content on articles Heba Aisha (talk) 18:47, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
Heba good to see your are so regular but please be more informative
You added bhumihars to shudra who were always considered high caste even brahmin. I am a kshtriya kushwaha Anirudh Kumar Paswan (talk) 07:43, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
- We realized...as LukeEmily and others have discussed it at the talk page of chariotrider.Heba Aisha (talk) 14:58, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
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- First of all its violation of policy.As you urself said in WP:AE that it represent kunwar singh and his attendants and shouldn't be put on top of caste articles. And you have directly put level 3 warning. Heba Aisha (talk) 11:39, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
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You have marked the media as a duplicate and for speedy deletion, when it's obvious from the caption of your upload that it's an engraving of a photograph(One uploaded by me). Stop personal attack and Revenge Anony20 (talk) 12:27, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
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- Not a disruption. Adequate reason provided.Heba Aisha (talk) 16:34, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
I have clarified your concern earlier. Again I've answered it to the talk page of Bihari Rajput. If the image is removed further it would be an act of WP:VANDAL Anony20 (talk) 16:37, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
- You are violating long standing consensus. Heba Aisha (talk) 16:39, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
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You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at Bihari Rajput. Anony20 (talk) 03:02, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
- Anony20... I have put a WP:RFC for image on the page and as per norms the disputed section(here the image) shouldn't be edited. So! Its not me but u who is a policy violator.Heba Aisha (talk) 02:59, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
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- Firestar464...Thank you so much for your kind words dear.It means a lot for me amidst hate speech and abuses by the vandals.Heba Aisha (talk) 04:22, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
Hi
So nice of you to take interest in Bihar. I live in siwan, from which city you are. Bihari Babu is back (talk) 06:31, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
I like the way you manipulate things. I did not remove any content. Be my friend. Basically I am from Siwan but now live in Birmingham. Bihari Babu is back (talk) 14:00, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
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Could you please explain why you removed reliable sources and a court-proven hearing on the page of Kanhaiya Kumar? You removed the entire controversy section on November 4. Some of the content was there for months without any accusation. For refrence. Imaniward (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 21:28, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
- You could add caste when the person themself identify with that caste.Heba Aisha (talk) 21:55, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
Your work on Kayasthas and bhumihar page
Heba although I respect most of your work,the citation of Arun Sinha given on bhumihar and Kayasthas is just a opinion. These pages are one of the most vandalised pages and giving a mere opinion is not worthy. Kindly give a second thought and please be more respectful toward these communities. Please don’t take this personally. Shakibkhan Shakib khan1985 (talk) 13:23, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
- The pages are protected right now and the content is supported by another book too. Heba Aisha (talk) 13:48, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
- Mam I don’t know which book you’re referring to but on a social level in Bihar these communities lie generally between Rajputs and Brahmins. Both of these communities follow all Brahmincal traditions too like upnayana and various samskara. Anyways you’re a smart person,but please I request you to have more wide perspective on these issues. I would like you to have discussion on these caste if you agree. Shakib khan1985 (talk) 14:28, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
- I agree dear...and this is reflected in the article too that they got recognition as upper caste due to wealth and education. But traditionally their varna status is not Kshatriya and Brahman. In fact peasant caste like Kurmi koeri and Yadav also claim Kshatriya status linking themselves with Krishna and Ram.Heba Aisha (talk) 14:31, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
- Mam I don’t know which book you’re referring to but on a social level in Bihar these communities lie generally between Rajputs and Brahmins. Both of these communities follow all Brahmincal traditions too like upnayana and various samskara. Anyways you’re a smart person,but please I request you to have more wide perspective on these issues. I would like you to have discussion on these caste if you agree. Shakib khan1985 (talk) 14:28, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
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This source also mentions that some of the British censuses recorded them as Shudra. There are many other source on article which agrees that they seek to increase their ritual position by petitioning to British authorities. Heba Aisha (talk) 14:38, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
- Similarly, Kayastha were also Shudra before 1947 as this source specifies:
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- Sis Buchanan also mentioned bhumihars as Magadhi Brahmin and wrote about there high status in his account of Bhagalpur and Patna district . Jeffery wistoe link is also given in present Wikipedia page of bhumihars. Believe me I went through all British account about bhumihars and none of them classified bhumihars as shudras although few of them considered bhumihars as a separate caste. Please go through all important British documents yourself. Arun Kumar and wistoe didn’t elaborate which clearly imply that it was a fast opinion. Shakib khan1985 (talk) 15:09, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
- Topic of bhumihars and Kayasthas have been debated since a long time on wikipedia. I would like if a learned editor like you must consider a first hand proof not just a mere opinions. Shakib khan1985 (talk) 15:13, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
- Mam as far as I know Kayasthas are non cohesive groups. I went through Buchanan accounts and it appear to me like he was only talking about Karan and Bengali Kayasthas.So kindly apply those edits on these two specific pages Shakib khan1985 (talk) 15:19, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
- What I can see from above mentioned sources, I shared as quote. Yes it's not clear wat their varna status are and if you read Kayasth article both sides are mentioned. The sources that classified them as twice born is also mentioned. Heba Aisha (talk) 16:37, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
- Read properly, these lines
, it is from Kayastha article and another similar line is there too, which says that they are also recognised as twice born.and the final British Raj law case involving their varna in 1926 determined them to be Kshatriya.
I think you have not studied varna section properly.As of now both sides are mentioned in article. Heba Aisha (talk) 16:41, 6 December 2020 (UTC)1901 Bihar census, Kayasthas of the area were classified along with Brahmins and Rajputs in Bihar as “other castes of twice-born rank”
- Read properly, these lines
- What I can see from above mentioned sources, I shared as quote. Yes it's not clear wat their varna status are and if you read Kayasth article both sides are mentioned. The sources that classified them as twice born is also mentioned. Heba Aisha (talk) 16:37, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
- Mam as far as I know Kayasthas are non cohesive groups. I went through Buchanan accounts and it appear to me like he was only talking about Karan and Bengali Kayasthas.So kindly apply those edits on these two specific pages Shakib khan1985 (talk) 15:19, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
- Topic of bhumihars and Kayasthas have been debated since a long time on wikipedia. I would like if a learned editor like you must consider a first hand proof not just a mere opinions. Shakib khan1985 (talk) 15:13, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
- Sis Buchanan also mentioned bhumihars as Magadhi Brahmin and wrote about there high status in his account of Bhagalpur and Patna district . Jeffery wistoe link is also given in present Wikipedia page of bhumihars. Believe me I went through all British account about bhumihars and none of them classified bhumihars as shudras although few of them considered bhumihars as a separate caste. Please go through all important British documents yourself. Arun Kumar and wistoe didn’t elaborate which clearly imply that it was a fast opinion. Shakib khan1985 (talk) 15:09, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
Hmm..... I think you’re right on Kayasthas part but I went through 11 documents from 1809( first work on these isssue from Buchanan) to 1900 on bhumihars and none of them considered them as shudras. There assigned status was unanimously as a dwija. Shakib khan1985 (talk) 16:54, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
- For readers I think we should provide more authentic citations.I would further like you to revert the recent changes on bhumihar page with the Jeffery wistoe citations. Shakib khan1985 (talk) 16:57, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
- see the book I mentioned above also census of british era fall in category of WP:Primary if caste assignment is considered. We need some writer to interpret it and this book has interpreted that they were Shudra in earlier census.Heba Aisha (talk) 16:58, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
- First of the Jeffery wistoe book reference was written in 2013. So clearly it is a secondary source( I am talking about bhumihars). Shakib khan1985 (talk) 17:08, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
- In that book see page 31,it says:
Heba Aisha (talk) 17:15, 6 December 2020 (UTC)In 1889, Bhumihar Brahman sabha were formed to advance Bhumihar claim of Brahman status- culminating in official title "Bhumihar Brahman"- after the colonial census also categorised them as Shudra.
- Mam...plz understand my point. I am saying there was no colonial census that classified bhumihars as shudras.The bhumihar Brahmin Mahasabha was formed because bhumihars were classified just as ambiguous upper dwija caste and they wanted the Brahmin status which we can discuss further. Shakib khan1985 (talk) 17:20, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
- The book you’re referring to hasn’t provided any reference and is just a fast opinion. A book written with no elaboration on such topics could be clearly wrong. Hope you understand my point. Shakib khan1985 (talk) 17:21, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
- This is not wat the source say.See WP:V. Heba Aisha (talk) 17:22, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
- The book you’re referring to hasn’t provided any reference and is just a fast opinion. A book written with no elaboration on such topics could be clearly wrong. Hope you understand my point. Shakib khan1985 (talk) 17:21, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
- Mam...plz understand my point. I am saying there was no colonial census that classified bhumihars as shudras.The bhumihar Brahmin Mahasabha was formed because bhumihars were classified just as ambiguous upper dwija caste and they wanted the Brahmin status which we can discuss further. Shakib khan1985 (talk) 17:20, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
- In that book see page 31,it says:
- First of the Jeffery wistoe book reference was written in 2013. So clearly it is a secondary source( I am talking about bhumihars). Shakib khan1985 (talk) 17:08, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
- see the book I mentioned above also census of british era fall in category of WP:Primary if caste assignment is considered. We need some writer to interpret it and this book has interpreted that they were Shudra in earlier census.Heba Aisha (talk) 16:58, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
After the ma sherring reference about bhumihars they were considered as separate caste in behar and as Brahmins in united province of Agra and oudh Shakib khan1985 (talk) 17:24, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
- All I am saying is that the source is wrong which I is a huge possibility.so kindly understand my point to have a meaningful discussion Shakib khan1985 (talk) 17:26, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
- first of all I haven't added the content that say : British era census considered them Shudra. And there are many parts in article which State, what changes you want. ex: They follow three of six ceremonies followed by Brahmans and present socio-political status are all covered. The source explicitly says, wat is written in quote above.Heba Aisha (talk) 17:32, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
- Regarding source: We couldn't find better source then it coz it is from University of Chicago,even administrators couldn't remove that. Heba Aisha (talk) 17:32, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
- Mam kindly revert the Sinha’s citation. Shakib khan1985 (talk) 17:39, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
- And please explain why witsoe citations can’t be edited. Shakib khan1985 (talk) 17:41, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
- Plz don’t take it personally but there is just a single line in that book. Shakib khan1985 (talk) 17:43, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
- The author Jeffery witsoe have mentioned all the matters he was doubtful about and pages 206 and 208 have been cleverly omitted from the reference. Shakib khan1985 (talk) 17:48, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
- Please guide me what process I should follow. I really want people to have correct information about articles on caste and religion. Shakib khan1985 (talk) 17:53, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
- The author Jeffery witsoe have mentioned all the matters he was doubtful about and pages 206 and 208 have been cleverly omitted from the reference. Shakib khan1985 (talk) 17:48, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
- Plz don’t take it personally but there is just a single line in that book. Shakib khan1985 (talk) 17:43, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
- And please explain why witsoe citations can’t be edited. Shakib khan1985 (talk) 17:41, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
- Mam kindly revert the Sinha’s citation. Shakib khan1985 (talk) 17:39, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
- Regarding source: We couldn't find better source then it coz it is from University of Chicago,even administrators couldn't remove that. Heba Aisha (talk) 17:32, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
- first of all I haven't added the content that say : British era census considered them Shudra. And there are many parts in article which State, what changes you want. ex: They follow three of six ceremonies followed by Brahmans and present socio-political status are all covered. The source explicitly says, wat is written in quote above.Heba Aisha (talk) 17:32, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
Use help me template on Article's talk page to attract the attention of administrators. And explain them changes you want.Heba Aisha (talk) 17:54, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
- Done mam plz check if it is visible to you. I would still request you to revert Sinha’s reference. Shakib khan1985 (talk) 18:03, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
- Shakib khan1985, Heba Aisha, please continue your discussion. One point that is common about both these groups is that they may not be uniform i.e what applies to Bihar may not apply to Bengal. Please be as narrow as possible when talking about the varna of these groups (from example bhumihars of UP, Bhumihars of Bihar etc.). From what I understand the sources specifically mention Bihar. LukeEmily (talk) 18:25, 6 December 2020 (UTC)(talk page watcher)
- Bhumihars of up and bihar are completely same. All i am saying that there is no primary source which classified bhumihars as shudras. Almost all editors have taken it on there ego that they can write anything without going through british census. I found heba as a respected member to be approached but you guys are so stern that you don't wantbanother perspective. I am a sociology student at du pursuing my masters. Shakib khan1985 (talk) 19:33, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
- I went through all records in my library about bhumihars and kayasthas(all) and found it important to correct the article as much as possible but you guys are clearly not understanding my point. Shakib khan1985 (talk) 19:36, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
- Shakib khan1985, Please can you provide some opposing sources? Currently the information for both Kayastha/Bhumiyar of Bihar seems well sourced. I do not know what Arun Sinha's qualifications are but if he is a modern historian or Anthropologist then he can be considered WP:HISTRWThanks LukeEmily (talk) 19:44, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
- Arun sinha is a newspaper editors and affliated to a political party. Jeffry witsoe is a anthropologist and sociologist but the source mentioned is a book on politics of bihar. I don't find his comment on kayathas/bhumihar varna status a serious one by him. He stresses mainly on present political environment of bihar. Shakib khan1985 (talk) 20:01, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
- So please revert arun sinhas references and have a discussion on talk page of bhumihar/kayathas article. Shakib khan1985 (talk) 20:02, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
- Arun sinha specializes mainly in investigation journalism he is famous for keeping track of criminal records of politicians. He has nothing to do with history and sociology. Shakib khan1985 (talk) 20:06, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
- So please revert arun sinhas references and have a discussion on talk page of bhumihar/kayathas article. Shakib khan1985 (talk) 20:02, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
- Arun sinha is a newspaper editors and affliated to a political party. Jeffry witsoe is a anthropologist and sociologist but the source mentioned is a book on politics of bihar. I don't find his comment on kayathas/bhumihar varna status a serious one by him. He stresses mainly on present political environment of bihar. Shakib khan1985 (talk) 20:01, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
- Shakib khan1985, Please can you provide some opposing sources? Currently the information for both Kayastha/Bhumiyar of Bihar seems well sourced. I do not know what Arun Sinha's qualifications are but if he is a modern historian or Anthropologist then he can be considered WP:HISTRWThanks LukeEmily (talk) 19:44, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
- I went through all records in my library about bhumihars and kayasthas(all) and found it important to correct the article as much as possible but you guys are clearly not understanding my point. Shakib khan1985 (talk) 19:36, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
- Bhumihars of up and bihar are completely same. All i am saying that there is no primary source which classified bhumihars as shudras. Almost all editors have taken it on there ego that they can write anything without going through british census. I found heba as a respected member to be approached but you guys are so stern that you don't wantbanother perspective. I am a sociology student at du pursuing my masters. Shakib khan1985 (talk) 19:33, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
- Shakib khan1985, Heba Aisha, please continue your discussion. One point that is common about both these groups is that they may not be uniform i.e what applies to Bihar may not apply to Bengal. Please be as narrow as possible when talking about the varna of these groups (from example bhumihars of UP, Bhumihars of Bihar etc.). From what I understand the sources specifically mention Bihar. LukeEmily (talk) 18:25, 6 December 2020 (UTC)(talk page watcher)
Please can we discuss in one place. Please see discussion on Bhumihar talk page. I just found his qualifications from the publisher and his facebook account LukeEmily (talk) 20:14, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
- Heba Aisha, Shakib khan1985, please use indents while you add new messages. I've fixed this discussion with indentation as it makes reading smooth for a reader. Feel best at installing the Reply Link tool. Regards, ─ The Aafī on Mobile (talk) 20:22, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
Take on castes
I agree to you and support on your recent takes on articles about rajputs but a learned person like you should understand my points on bhumihars and kayathas Shakib khan1985 (talk) 19:40, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
low quality sources
Hi Heba, You reverted my change here on Bhumihar [3] But I think we as editors should not use low quality sources - especially by journalists on caste articles for sensitive topics like Varna. Using journalist, engineer or doctor opinions on Varna will open doors for puffery of other articles too and anyway wikipedia does not consider them good sources. You have added the Shudra for Bhumihar from that University of Chicago press book which is good and should be enough. I don't know much about Bihar or Bhumihar castes but in general I think journalists should not be used for mentioning varna as they are politically affiliated and often biased. They are not scholars on the Hindu caste system. Otherwise people will start adding timesofindia and other sources that at times mention varna. LukeEmily (talk) 12:58, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
- Check various articles like Bind Kewat Qassab and many more....we donot even have books to write about many castes. Because history of these caste starts after 1947. Take for example yadav caste; though they are most dominant if you talk about political history you will find books by ppl who are not historian. Because historian donot write about political history after 1947. Even I saw Sitush said that Ashwani kumar is the best source for bihar political history, who is not historian. As of now you can move that content and adjust in politics section.Heba Aisha (talk) 19:25, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
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Final words regarding bhumihar article
All I request you to do is to remove Arun Sinha’s references in bhumihar page and kindly elaborate the ma sherring work more on the article. Thanks hope you consider my request. Shakib khan1985 (talk) 06:54, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Plz provide the source about which you are talking. Heba Aisha (talk) 07:03, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- I m currently busy in Nishad article. Post the book (if its reliable) on my talk pageHeba Aisha (talk) 07:12, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Apse have talked about the Arun Sinha book is clearly incompetent so why are you not removing it. Shakib khan1985 (talk) 07:43, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
Heba don’t be a upper caste hater.
I went through the long debate between you and that Muslim guy shakib. You jumped some really great points. I don’t why you have an authoritative and misguiding attitude all the rules you mentioned were completely opposite from what he seems to be saying. Kindly be more liberal and remember how my Rajput brothers owned you. You must be a kurmi or Kushwaha or Chamar as it appears to me. Proud Rajput kstriya (talk) 08:09, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- I can be Teli, Nishad, Mallah, Paswan etc etc too as all these articles are also 80%-90% my work.Heba Aisha (talk) 08:12, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Heba, I have left the above comment by the caste warrior Proud Rajput kstriya on your page because you replied to it. But I removed the attacks they posted next. (And I've blocked them indefinitely. I wonder whose sock they are, do you have any suggestion?) Bishonen | tålk 10:26, 9 December 2020 (UTC).
- Hi Bishonen, thank u, this guy came after another guy failed to provide any reliable source and convince us to change content on Bhumihar article. There may be any connection between the two accounts.Heba Aisha (talk) 13:51, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Is that Shakib khan1985? They're a lot more polite, but... hmm. I see Proud Rajput kstriya posted an attack on you there.[4] Thanks for the tip, I will investigate. (Did you notice I used the {{noping}} template? That's handy if one wants to link to a user without bothering them with a ping.) Bishonen | tålk 16:06, 9 December 2020 (UTC).
- Hi Bishonen, thank u, this guy came after another guy failed to provide any reliable source and convince us to change content on Bhumihar article. There may be any connection between the two accounts.Heba Aisha (talk) 13:51, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
Ya, Bishonen i learned a new thing now. Thanks again for guidance and keeping tab on my talk page.Because of your consistent vigil wikipedia is a good place for me.Heba Aisha (talk) 16:18, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- OK, a checkuser took a look, and sure enough, you were right. Shakib khan1985 is now also blocked indefinitely. Bishonen | tålk 18:43, 9 December 2020 (UTC).
- These two people must have been affiliated to Bhumihar community. Bishonen, caste articles are the areas in which the most common form of disruption is seeking higher varna status. In future if you find any account seeking higher varna status(I.e want to write any caste as Brahmin and Kshatriya) then you can recognise that it's "castecruft". Thanks again. Heba Aisha (talk) 18:57, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
Hey bishonen
I do not support any kind of attack but heba here and lukeemily are continuously changing previous content on a single community.
She joined 6 months ago and lukeemily joined 5 months ago .
All of sudden they are targeting a single community, if terrorism doesn't have any religion how come crime done by some people be of any caste.
They have even blocked user to edit any wiki page.
Even they are vandalising wiki page and spoiling a social image of a community.
If you hold any authority then please restore all the contents changed by these 2 users.
Jbinsan (talk) 10:09, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
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Good work in subcontinent related articles. Zakaria1978 ښه راغلاست (talk) 00:43, 12 December 2020 (UTC) |
When users replace the content of others within seconds
An addition was made to a page that was almost instantly overwritten by someone else, and when repaired you came along and replaced it again with the defacing. Please exercise a modicum of judgment in your actions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.140.116.57 (talk) 03:20, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
- 69.140.116.57 Which page, may I ask? Thank you for your help! Firestar464 (talk) 03:00, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
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- Thank u Kautilya3...will alert the new users in future.I actually wished that he should be given last chance to edit other areas.Heba Aisha (talk) 13:36, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
- Theoretically, that would have been lovely, but in my experience caste warriors never do. They simply disappear if they're topic banned. When I say they disappear... I mean, the particular account disappears. Am I becoming cynical? Yes, about caste promotion, I definitely am cynical. Frankly, I wish Wikipedia didn't have to have caste articles. Bishonen | tålk 16:03, 14 December 2020 (UTC).
- Yesterday I was glancing through a question at quora(just curiosity otherwise I know that less knowledgeable ppl are there), it was like Are Rajput a mixture of Shudra and Tribal?.A guy was blaming Bishonen in the reply that they blocked him when they wanted to be unbiased (unbiased for them means their POV violating edits regarding their caste) on wikipedia. Heba Aisha (talk) 23:27, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
- That's so flattering! Got a link? Bishonen | tålk 11:11, 15 December 2020 (UTC).
- Yesterday I was glancing through a question at quora(just curiosity otherwise I know that less knowledgeable ppl are there), it was like Are Rajput a mixture of Shudra and Tribal?.A guy was blaming Bishonen in the reply that they blocked him when they wanted to be unbiased (unbiased for them means their POV violating edits regarding their caste) on wikipedia. Heba Aisha (talk) 23:27, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
- Theoretically, that would have been lovely, but in my experience caste warriors never do. They simply disappear if they're topic banned. When I say they disappear... I mean, the particular account disappears. Am I becoming cynical? Yes, about caste promotion, I definitely am cynical. Frankly, I wish Wikipedia didn't have to have caste articles. Bishonen | tålk 16:03, 14 December 2020 (UTC).
[5], this was the question and I think they deleted the comment in which they mentioned you.The comment was from the same guy who is doubting reliability of wikipedia. Heba Aisha (talk) 11:21, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks. Pity I didn't get to read the actual compliment. Bishonen | tålk 11:25, 15 December 2020 (UTC).
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- Thanks Cupper52, in the lockdown period I got too much time to contribute to wiki.Heba Aisha (talk) 01:46, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
Dear Heba i don't have to much knowledge about wkipedia editing, but i want to learn because i have very good knowledge about bihar like politics. If possible pls share your email or contact. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zainshahab (talk • contribs) 09:01, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
--Zainshahab (talk) 09:04, 22 December 2020 (UTC) Share your email or any contact if possible.
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- Fylindfotberserk, same to you. Actually I was waiting for tomorrow to wish you and other ppl but you won.Heba Aisha (talk) 07:30, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
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Photo of Ezhava
can you set this photo of Ezhava ?
This is a famous painting of a Ezhava(thiyya) moopan by a disciple of Raja Ravi Varma
Page is protected.
Thank you.
- I have tried, are u satisfied? 1.39.77.99Heba Aisha (talk) 09:39, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
Hi Heba,
Yes, but can you add that pic too? May be you can remove that group photo and replace with this.
It's of historical and academic interest, as well as a well known painting.
Thiyyar moopan were the headmen (a leader in a village) of Thiyyar / Ezhavar.
This photo is used in Malayalam ezhava/thiyya wikipedia : https://ml.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B4%A4%E0%B5%80%E0%B4%AF%E0%B5%BC
Thank you and have a merry christmas.
Be cautious about entertaining such requests. The person who keeps asking for inclusions and replacements is a block-evaded sock.Whose only intention is to make the entire articles on the way of his beliefs which is against Wikipedia policy. Please read talk:Ezhava. 106.66.142.46 (talk) 15:44, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
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- Thanks a lot.Heba Aisha (talk) 18:11, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
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- Hey, wanted to leave a bit more detail on why I proded this file. Non-free images have to meet certain criteria to be used, and one of them is that no free alternative is available or likely to be available. For a living person, that criteria is just generally assumed to not be met - since they are still alive, which means its very possible for someone to take a picture of them and release it with a free license. Ravensfire (talk) 22:53, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
- Ok, how can I prevent delition? Heba Aisha (talk) 06:11, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
- Heba Aisha, I don't think it's eligible for use as a non-free image as the person is still alive. It's from a blog, so it's really likely that they took the image from somewhere else. If it's from an official Indian government site, taken by someone working for the government, it may be in public domain. I don't know the rules around that off-hand, and you'd need to find that official website. Honestly, that probably is your best bet - since they were a member of a legislature, they may have an "official portrait" or similar available on a government website. Non-free rationale can be tricky at times, I've been bit a couple of times by the criteria, there's a lot. Ravensfire (talk) 14:59, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks will look for alternatives.Heba Aisha (talk) 16:39, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
- Ok, how can I prevent delition? Heba Aisha (talk) 06:11, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
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Hii Heba, I want to learn and contribute for wikipedia. If you will help me. Zainshahab (talk) 09:23, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
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- Same to u, happy new yr.Heba Aisha (talk) 08:36, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
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- Thank u and welcome to wiki. Heba Aisha (talk) 15:03, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks. :) Empire AS Talk! 17:47, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
Hi Heba, Hope you are doing well. BTW, Happy New Year :-) I don't know if you are aware but there is a Rajput facebook group calling us(you, HinduKshatrana and myself) "hatemongers". Please see https://www.facebook.com/108197814411768/posts/providing-below-the-list-of-hate-mongers-and-propagandists-against-rajput-commun/128570702374479/ and one post that discussed the Bihari Rajput image https://www.facebook.com/108197814411768/posts/130090175555865/ It mentions you by name. There are currently 19 followers but I hope there are no incidences of puppetry in the future.LukeEmily (talk) 09:13, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks LukeEmily pls provide english translation of Bihari Rajput related stuff from facebook using google translate to make admins know about the upcoming disturbance in the topic area.Contacting Bishonen , RegentsPark, Boing! said Zebedee Heba Aisha (talk) 09:43, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Heba, Google translate says(not grammatically correct but the gist is clear): "Whoever this brother is, broke his back on wikipedia to discredit the Rajputs. reminded heba..Salute is your brother. After removing the picture of the Rajputs, some anti-social people had put a picture of Malah on this page, which this brother had corrected by arguing that he was different."LukeEmily (talk) 09:52, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks, LukeEmily and happy new year, guys. I'll add pings to @SpacemanSpiff, Vanamonde93, and Doug Weller:. Bishonen | tålk 10:00, 3 January 2021 (UTC).
- Hi Heba, Google translate says(not grammatically correct but the gist is clear): "Whoever this brother is, broke his back on wikipedia to discredit the Rajputs. reminded heba..Salute is your brother. After removing the picture of the Rajputs, some anti-social people had put a picture of Malah on this page, which this brother had corrected by arguing that he was different."LukeEmily (talk) 09:52, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
- Explaining to admins I tagged: Those editors who were bloked and rejected by wikipedia for doing disruptive POV edits in the caste area, specially Rajput caste related pages have made Facebook page to bring more and more members of the community in a bid to pursue disruptive editing for castecruft in those articles. LukeEmily has pasted two links above, the second one is in Hindi so here is the translation.
"Whoever this brother is, broke his back on wikipedia to discredit the Rajputs. reminded heba..Salute is your brother. After removing the picture of the Rajputs, some anti-social people had put a picture of Malah on this page, which this brother had corrected by arguing that he was different."
- There could be massive disruptive editing on Rajput related pages in future as the membership of facebook page grow. Recent edits on Rajputisation is a part of that.Heba Aisha (talk) 10:02, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
"Some People Try To Se Smart Handsome Dashing And Cool All Their Life But Some Are Born Rajput
" [6]. Well, some people believe in periods and lower case letters. Bishonen, can Rajputisation go on long-term semi-protection or ECP? -- Kautilya3 (talk) 10:49, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
- And see this one,[7] Kautilya3 and Bishonen. Heba Aisha (talk) 11:28, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
- I've indeffed Alexander the Kshatriya and ECP-protected Rajputisation for a year. Obviously, other related pages may need more protection also, if the disruption moves there. Bishonen | tålk 12:11, 3 January 2021 (UTC).
- PS, however, the Facebook group doesn't seem any too active recently, and only has 18 followers. Maybe it won't turn into a major problem. Alexander did need indeffing, nevertheless. Bishonen | tålk 13:27, 3 January 2021 (UTC).
- This is not uncommon with any of the caste articles, there's a lot of off-wiki coordination, Facebook, caste sites and wikis (Jatland), caste discussion forums (Nair, Gurjars etc), nothing we can really do about it, just block accounts as any evidence of disruption comes about. —SpacemanSpiff 05:49, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
- The only thing that surprises me about it all is that they're stupid enough to think it will work. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 09:08, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
- This is not uncommon with any of the caste articles, there's a lot of off-wiki coordination, Facebook, caste sites and wikis (Jatland), caste discussion forums (Nair, Gurjars etc), nothing we can really do about it, just block accounts as any evidence of disruption comes about. —SpacemanSpiff 05:49, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
- PS, however, the Facebook group doesn't seem any too active recently, and only has 18 followers. Maybe it won't turn into a major problem. Alexander did need indeffing, nevertheless. Bishonen | tålk 13:27, 3 January 2021 (UTC).
- I've indeffed Alexander the Kshatriya and ECP-protected Rajputisation for a year. Obviously, other related pages may need more protection also, if the disruption moves there. Bishonen | tålk 12:11, 3 January 2021 (UTC).
Boing! said Zebedee, most of the uninvolved admins (I mean those who are not from India and out of the Varna System, to favour any caste) donot know in depth about the topic area and it becomes easy for someone who knows some policies of wikipedia to create disruption in the name of adding content. Though Bishonen believes that group is small to create disruption here, they have started it on Hindi Wikipedia as in one of the post in the facebook group, the author is himself admitting that they have heavily edited a caste article on Hindi wiki.Heba Aisha (talk) 10:30, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
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Abhira tribe
Please check Abhira tribe, A editer named '"Hindukshtrana"' editing without source thanks. Bloodofruler (talk) 12:16, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
Reason for my edit
Hey I have not deleted anything but changed the order as their main office should be shown first Please donot revert my edits AyushBhaardwaj (talk) 11:37, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
- AyushBhaardwaj, main office is mentioned in the lead, plz don't deteriorate the lead and structure.Heba Aisha (talk) 11:39, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
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You have done a lot of work in cleaning up spam from Wikipedia. This is to appreciate your contributions. Walrus Ji (talk) 11:49, 15 January 2021 (UTC) |
It is very unfortunate, that you were subjected to personal attacks. Hope you will not be deterred by it. --Walrus Ji (talk) 11:53, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- Walrus Ji, thank u so much for appreciation. Admins have taken the note of that and yes caste is an area where there are chances that more vandals may blast in future. Heba Aisha (talk) 14:40, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- You are welcome. Well deserved. I am glad that you have the courage to even dive into that topic area. Keep taking admin help whenever it is going out of hand. Walrus Ji (talk) 14:45, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks again for your help.Heba Aisha " I saw you have opened a sockpuppet investigation but that requires various factors to be completed. Demage has been done, you can't do anything but just seeing.223.225.140.103 (talk) 05:23, 17 February 2021 (UTC)"talk) 14:47, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- You are welcome. Well deserved. I am glad that you have the courage to even dive into that topic area. Keep taking admin help whenever it is going out of hand. Walrus Ji (talk) 14:45, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
Shiru the dog
What is his story? what kind of injury. How is he doing now? --Walrus Ji (talk) 11:53, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- He is grown up and with me as of now. In an accident, he lost 4 of his siblings. I saved the last one.Heba Aisha (talk) 14:41, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- Glad to know that it survived and found a caring house. I love his pattern like the Border Collie. Do get it neutered whenever vet recommends. I have heard that Municipality vets will readily do it without any charge to you, as part of their job duty. Walrus Ji (talk) 14:49, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, in india the local breed of dogs are neglected and still the condition is worst as many people don't care.Heba Aisha (talk) 14:52, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- The desi Pariah dog are battle hardened and do not suffer the common diseases as other dogs face. Need little maintenance. They are friendly and bark very little. The dog population is on the rise due to lack of neutering drives for the dog. The vet will only neuter when people bring the dogs. As per the government rule the Govt vets have to do it without charging any cost. --Walrus Ji (talk) 15:00, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
, Big problem due to lack of awareness and also empathy Heba Aisha (talk) 15:01, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- True. I have heard that Islam prohibits dog so it is uncommon. It is great that you value the love of the puppy. They are bundle of joy. Walrus Ji (talk) 15:05, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
User:Walrus Ji will not bother you more. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sheikh Sahil Siddiqui (talk • contribs) 19:20, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
Vendetta based Targeting of Rajputs
Recently you came to my talk page and said that Kachwaha rajputs through history were known as servants of Mughals while kushwaha peasants gained nobility, which is not only outrageous but also shows your biased approach and systematic targeting of Rajputs. Most of the edits are concerned about demeaning rajputs one way or other. Mughals were in India for around a period of 250 yrs, Kachwaha relations with Mughals were not even for 200 yrs. Moreover Kachwaha rajputs have a martial history of 1200 yrs, with many of their fighters died fighting battles against Invading forces in India, like Prithviraj kachwaha in Battle of Khanwa against Mughals and Pajawan dev kachwaha against Ghori in Battle of Tarain, how can You call a whole clan as servant of Mughals? I hope senior editors take cognizance of your biased comments about Rajput community by the editor. User: Kautilya3 User: Utcursch Bhojpal1234 (talk) 18:08, 16 January 2021 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bhojpal1234 (talk • contribs) 17:59, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
- When did I say wat you are telling? In fact I have just supported your stand about the difference between the two. And the Kachhawas were not added by me in Kushwaha article. All of my contribution to that article was in politics section. Its Sitush who added that.Heba Aisha (talk) 18:34, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
Rajput
Rajput clans was not originated from peasant or pastoral communities,why is it there please check Rajput artical. Thanks. ScPolice (talk) 18:03, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
- Scholars say they were originated as described in the article. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 01:46, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
I see you like doggos :)
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Here have this naughty doge! For your contribs to wiki! and for fighting the evil vandals!
P.s not simping -- KindCowboy69 ☮ 10:26, 19 January 2021 (UTC) |
- Thanks for such a nice dog KindCowboy69Heba Aisha (talk) 11:33, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
Yadav page
Hey please remove the picture from page it doesn't defined whole community Rudra yaduvanshi (talk) 11:36, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
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- Thanks a lot.Heba Aisha (talk) 04:22, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- No worries; I removed quite a lot of POV text But I think the article still has a long way to go before it reaches GAN standard. In particular, I think the early part of the History section could use more information about the colonial and pre-colonial periods. The later sections focussing on the colourful Yadav and Devi periods could be summarised, with perhaps more about their corruption, gangs, "parallel governments", the lack of Federal intervention, etc.
- There's also an unreliable source (dead url; marked in the ref) used that appears to have been a mirror of an old version of Wikipedia's main article on Bihar. It's an interesting article overall (not that I have much interest in Indian politics!), and I wish you good luck getting it to GA standard. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 20:51, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Article is not fully my work, the mirror source was used by someone else and initial part too was written before i joined, and I m surely going to do major changes in few days to improve it further.Heba Aisha (talk) 03:17, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
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In your contributions to the article "Bihar under Lalu Prasad Yadav" there has been much misuse of periods, commas, and colons. These should not be used to separate two spaces. This sentence shows incorrect usage "Do not write as follows : This is incorrect , very incorrect . ". This sentence shows correct usage "Write as follows: This is correct, very correct." Jellysandwich0 (talk) 21:10, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks Heba Aisha (talk) 22:06, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
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Hi Heba Aisha, I've removed your copy-edit request for the article Koeri from the Guild of Copy Editors Requets page because there's currently a limit of two requests per editor at any one time. This limit allows all requests on the page to be dealt with fairly and stops the page from becoming unserviceable. If you wish to prioritise this article, you can replace one of your other requests with Koeri; otherwise, please wait until one of them is completed before adding more requests. Thanks for your patience and understanding. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 06:47, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
- Its ok, I will wait.Heba Aisha (talk) 08:35, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Thanks a lot.Heba Aisha (talk) 17:42, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
Hi <small unsigned comment added by 103.149.53.230 (talk) 05:06, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
You may have misunderstood my keep !vote; I wasn't suggesting a merge. All the best, Miniapolis 00:02, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks. Heba Aisha (talk) 00:30, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
Stop canvassing!
Heba, you need to stop canvassing users to that deletion discussion right now. Surely you know this? Bishonen | tålk 21:13, 19 February 2021 (UTC).
- Bishonen, Ya,but WP:APPNOTE allows posting a certain message with template subst:please see.? Heba Aisha (talk) 21:15, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- I'm afraid I'd call that wikilawyering, Heba. Alerting a user who just gave you a barnstar for your articles on the politics of Bihar is definitely not a good look. That's a user you probably think will vote Keep. Common sense trumps the list of rules you refer to. I know you feel strongly about this, Heba, but please don't let your passion push you into inappropriate actions. Bishonen | tålk 21:24, 19 February 2021 (UTC).
- Bishonen, Oh, that's the case. Then ok, I won't chose those who gave me Barnstar. Actually, they also edited in same topic area. But its ok. Next time will choose neutral person or won't choose. Heba Aisha (talk) 21:27, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- Should I remove those messages? I know WP:PNSD applies. And I can use this to stop delition or can use neutral forum post delition too, Bishonen. Heba Aisha (talk) 21:33, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- Oh, never mind. Yes, next time, please use a neutral forum only. Much better. Bishonen | tålk 21:40, 19 February 2021 (UTC).
- Should I remove those messages? I know WP:PNSD applies. And I can use this to stop delition or can use neutral forum post delition too, Bishonen. Heba Aisha (talk) 21:33, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- Bishonen, Oh, that's the case. Then ok, I won't chose those who gave me Barnstar. Actually, they also edited in same topic area. But its ok. Next time will choose neutral person or won't choose. Heba Aisha (talk) 21:27, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
Yupp, thanks.Heba Aisha (talk) 21:46, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
February 2021
Hello. I have noticed that you often edit without using an edit summary. Please do your best to always fill in the summary field. This helps your fellow editors use their time more productively, rather than spending it unnecessarily scrutinizing and verifying your work. Even a short summary is better than no summary, and summaries are particularly important for large, complex, or potentially controversial edits. Thanks! 220 of ßorg 03:04, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
- I will take care of it.Heba Aisha (talk) 10:18, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
Congratulations
Dear Mr.K,
Congratulations on your 10000 edits! Share an email id, to take this further. I am not an enemy, rest assured. Call me an elder brother, if you wish to. Yours Mr.P Shylock Gomes (talk) 16:12, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- Heba Aisha, I won't do anything until I hear from you, because perhaps I've entirely misread the situation. But if this message was unwanted, let me know. --Floquenbeam (talk) 16:36, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- Floquenbeam, no doubt, its a personal attack and intimidation from the group which was keeping a tab on my activity for long. Recently, two of them were blocked, check Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Heybata. Heba Aisha (talk) 23:07, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- I was actually thinking someone else, but for blocking purposes, it doesn't matter who it is, just that they're being creepy. I've blocked this incarnation, but I can also semi-protect your talk page longer term if you'd like. --Floquenbeam (talk) 00:19, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
- Floquenbeam, plz do so, I am sick of these new accounts, made to disrupt my work. Already Bihar related articles are in precarious state and not updated for a long time, and someone who wanna improve is being disrupted by these ips.Heba Aisha (talk) 02:13, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
- I was actually thinking someone else, but for blocking purposes, it doesn't matter who it is, just that they're being creepy. I've blocked this incarnation, but I can also semi-protect your talk page longer term if you'd like. --Floquenbeam (talk) 00:19, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
- Floquenbeam, no doubt, its a personal attack and intimidation from the group which was keeping a tab on my activity for long. Recently, two of them were blocked, check Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Heybata. Heba Aisha (talk) 23:07, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- Hi, Heba. Compare also this conversation on Floquenbeam's page today. I don't know whose sock it is, but that doesn't matter; it's clearly a sock, and created for lies and shit-stirring. I've blocked it as such. Bishonen | tålk 14:58, 5 March 2021 (UTC).
- I've now removed another sock from this page and semiprotected it for a while. It doesn't look like Floq did the semi. Heba, please let me know if you spot further obvious socks elsewhere. As we know, the caste warriors have no respect for Wikipedia and its rules, or, I sometimes think, even any respect for themselves. Bishonen | tålk 16:00, 5 March 2021 (UTC).
Bishonen, obviously they are WP:MEAT, if not socks. In last four days a number of new accounts have reached to me with different stories.It will happen in future too.Heba Aisha (talk) 16:18, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
- Yeah, I'm afraid it's the thanks you get for defending the encyclopedia, Heba. Bishonen | tålk 16:27, 5 March 2021 (UTC).
- Thanks to you admins for consistent vigilance on my talk page. Untill my comments are there on Rajput talk page, these people will see me as villain and will keep blasting my talk page with abuses and accusations. Heba Aisha (talk) 16:31, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks, Bish, for semi-protecting this page; I went to bed before Heba Aisha replied, and am only now back online, so that's why I didn't semi-protect last night. Also thanks for blocking the sock on my talk page. Heba, if this is a long-term issue of organized or semi-organized harassment, it's possible someone at WP:T&S can provide further suggestions. I mean, it's likely WP:RBI is the best we can do, but maybe they can help a little more. --Floquenbeam (talk) 16:45, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
- Floquenbeam, my page has become a seperate area of discussion for admins.Ask Bishonen, how many socks and vandal accounts had been blocked in past just because of my page.Heba Aisha (talk) 16:55, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
History of Backward Caste movement in Bihar
Hello:
The copy edit you requested from the Guild of Copy Editors of the article History of Backward Caste movement in Bihar has been completed.
Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.
I have left a "Clarification" tag in the Surge in crime... section because the currency of the 50,000 payment is not specified. I would suggest that you expand the lede to more accurately reflect the article's scope when you have time.
I hope my edits have not changed the intended meaning of any parts of the article. Regards,
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- Thanks for the help I will do the necessary changes. Heba Aisha (talk) 19:23, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
Inappropriate thank
[8] This was very inappropriate. Please refrain from thanking people for being frustrated. Thanks. Firestar464 (talk) 08:16, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
- Bishonen, hi, recent contribution from this account gives me doubts! Why would someone respond to thank in such a manner. I think someone has highjacked it.Heba Aisha (talk) 08:52, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
- That depends, Heba. Thanks can be disruptive. What did you thank them for? Bishonen | tålk 09:45, 14 March 2021 (UTC).
- They thanked me for blanking a rather undesirable thread from my TP with a sarcastic edit summary. Looks like they're trying to rub it in. Firestar464 (talk) 10:22, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
- That depends, Heba. Thanks can be disruptive. What did you thank them for? Bishonen | tålk 09:45, 14 March 2021 (UTC).
- I didn't noticed, many a times I thank editors but it doesn't mean wat u understand. No issues, I will take care in future to do it when it's meaningful. Heba Aisha (talk) 10:39, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
- I see the edit you describe, Firestar464. (The thanks log only shows the person and the date of thanking — not the relevant edit. Only the two people involved can know what it was.) Heba, what exactly was it you "didn't notice"? Do you really thank people quite randomly "many times"? That's a bad idea. I hope your post above means it won't happen again. Seriously, please don't thank somebody if it's not quite clear why — clear to yourself and to the person you're thanking — otherwise you're playing with fire. Firestar464 doesn't understand what was to thank about that edit, and I don't understand it either. And your whole explanation so far seems to be "it doesn't mean wat u understand". Bishonen | tålk 16:20, 14 March 2021 (UTC).
- I didn't noticed, many a times I thank editors but it doesn't mean wat u understand. No issues, I will take care in future to do it when it's meaningful. Heba Aisha (talk) 10:39, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
You have to apply for the right
Hello there, I hope you saw the message left by Bishonen in the autopatrolled permission request page. He also have the feeling that you will be granted the right. But you have to apply for it. I think I made an error there. It shouldnt have done that way. So please make a request of your own and ping me there. Regards.Kichu🐘 Discuss 12:35, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
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Tomb of Amin Khan
Hello Aisha, hope you are doing well. I would like to ask your help. Since you are a person interested in Indian history, I want you to have a look at this. This draft is currently submitted at AFC and I am reviewing it. But I have a doubt. Is Amin Khan Aitigin and the subject in this draft the same persons? Both are different persons right? If they are the same, I need to decline the draft and merge it together. I hope you will be able to help me. Regards. Kichu🐘 Need any help? 00:46, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
- A quick read appears to that both are different, while one was the governor of golkunda sultanate having its roots in bahmani kingdom of south india, another is the governor of bengal. It is possible that same person could be transferred there but we may go by timeline here. The golkunda sultanate existed during 1400s-1500s roughly after the breakup of Bahmani kingdom ,while the mameluk dynasty was active in 1200s. These are not same person, we have different person of same name as popular historic figure, which leads to confusion. Heba Aisha (talk) 00:55, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
- Thankyou Aisha. Please remember to ping other users when you are replying to them so that they gey notified. Happy editing:) Kichu🐘 Need any help? 03:45, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
AFH
Hii Heba Aisha, I need a small help as I went through your user page and really like your way of representation of Service Award section. However, When I created the same on my user page I couldn't kept Service Award section apart from other bits like Autoconfirmed rights status, cricket fan hobbies etc and it all merge in 1 long section like your page but i want separate box for both sections. Can you please make a template for me in which i can keep a separate box for service awards (with Pink Colour) & other box for other things (like Account status,edit count,cricket fan etc). Will be thankful, If you provide a written template in these dicussion soon.Holy Contributor 92 (talk) 11:30, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- I think Fylindfotberserk is the best guy to help you here.Heba Aisha (talk) 12:36, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
About a page creation
Dear Heba Aisha, You are doing amazing work for wikipedia and you have created many pages of some politician from Bihar. I requested to you that you should create a page Uday Mandal because many people is searching about him on net. And he is a popular political leader in Bihar. You can check it out about him https://facebook.com/uday88mandal and https://m.livehindustan.com/bihar/madhubani/story-demonstrated-against-inflation-and-unemployment-3937699.amp.html there are many sources on net you can chek it out and please creat a page about him so people can find him on wikipedia. Thank you so much
- It will be deleted as topic should be WP:Notable and WP:NPOL says one should be elected officeholder to become notable as per definition of Wikipedia. Heba Aisha (talk) 08:53, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
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Your undeletion request
Hello Heba Aisha, I had replied to your help request at my talk page and I just noticed yoy havent replied so far. Did you saw it? Kichu🐘 Need any help? 17:14, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
- Ya, I m busy for some days. I will soon take steps.Heba Aisha (talk) 17:37, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
About Majhraut
I have improved the article, check it once and remove the irrelevant paragraph but do not delete the page. Kroshta (talk) 07:09, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
- I am sorry, it will be decided by admin . you may also vote there. Go through that link I put on your talk page to know more. Recently u added B.P mandal related stuff on Majrauth but source Nitish Kumar and rise of Bihar donot say he is Majhraut. Also please avoid using image of notable individual on caste article. Eg. You will not see Swami Vivekananda or Amitabh on Kayastha article. Similar goes for others too.Heba Aisha (talk) 10:04, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
I got you, now i am not using any image and i have removed that reference of bp mandal. Kroshta (talk) 12:04, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
Yadav
The picture used in article in fake Rudra yaduvanshi (talk) 17:52, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
Yadav
Hey buddy The page named as yadav is misleading the people because yadav is just a surname used by ahir community of India.And this article added through a propaganda.the picture used in this article is fake. I am requesting you to delete this page Thank you Rudra yaduvanshi (talk) 05:04, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
- Delition is not in my hands. If you feel there are genuine ground, you may nominate it for delition. But at first you should go through WP:delition.Heba Aisha (talk) 05:57, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
Yes the page is completely baseless . Vrishni (talk) 21:43, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
Ranvir Sena
Hi Heba, would you kindly verify these changes. Thanks. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 06:55, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
Don't put any article on deletation if you don't have proper knowledge about it
In your Talk page you have written that you are of Neapli ancestory and you have put Gopal dynasty arcticle which is an important History of Nepal for Deletation, Gopal dynasty was first dynasty of Nepal Which was established by Gopas who came to Nepal with Lord krishna. Please don't do these type of silly things by putting such an informative article for deletation you stupid idiot Ramesh mishra Naugachia (talk) 13:54, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
Yes, I agree Vrishni (talk) 21:44, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
Yes I agree with you Ramesh ji. This user doesn't have knowledge about things. Vrishni (talk) 21:45, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
Please Remove non elite word and a village girl image from Yadav article
Hey Heba Aisha I am from urs community of Karnataka which is also An Yadav we are recognised as Other backward classes and are of same origin as Rao sahabs of Haryana and Krishnaut’s and majraut caste of Up,Bihar Yadava are not Non elite we are considered as urs which means ruler in Kannada language And Rao’s of Haryana are also king of Of southern Haryana and parts of Rajasthan known as Ahirwal Northern Bihar also had many zamindari estates of Yadava such as Nazurgunj and murho estate in Tamilnadu also there was a Yadava king Named veer algumuthu kone who was also a freedom fighter Yadavs are considered as Elite caste in Haryana,Karnataka and also in odisha king of puri debyasing deb ji is also an majraut caste Yadava so please remove non elite and peasant word and add Chieftains of some regions and also please Remove those images which has nothing to do with Yadav and also remove that shudra thing because we aren’t shudra from any point of view if you’ll see us as warriors you’ll recognise us as kshatriyas if you’ll see us as milk seller then also we will be vaishya in our state Karnataka also there are two subdivisions of Yadav golla which is cowherds and urs who were ruler of the Karnataka.but haters of Yadava community has created such a Bad article against us so please do all the corrections and remove things which are not proper I have too much hope from you that you’ll do something on it please I beg you to take action And do something about it please I beg you Again
Your faithful Chandraveer urs Chamarajanagar Karnataka HindustaniHindu (talk) 14:32, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
Yes brother but this user has something jealousy towards Yadavas and she is just deleting contents.
Vrishni (talk) 21:25, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
Don't delete Tintanga Estate
Hey heba aisha I belong from the same region in which Tintanga Estate is ie Naugachia so I can assure you that information given in this arcticle is correct and useful I'll try to improve it more and add reliable citations there are many thesis and books which mentions Tintanga Estate but I am not getting them online as soon as I will find those sources I will add them please don't delete it its my Humble request the ref no 2 by Dr R kumari has a pdf which was published in Bnmu madhepura By Dr R kumari dept of History you can confirm the information given in this page from there also Ramesh mishra Naugachia (talk) 07:32, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
- Brother, we need high quality source to write an article. Hindi Wikipedia is unregulated and I see there people write anything without source.But a lot of rules apply to write an article on english one. The sources should be third party and independent. The Titanga estate has sources which are from website of places owned by rulers of estate, which we call WP:SPS. Its not allowed as we want to maintain the faith of our readers in our articles. I am sympathetic to you and others who are doing some work but, creating seperate article for topics which donot fulfill WP:GNG is a bad idea. You may add one or two line info with the few source in a article like in Yadav Clans, and avoid writing stubs like about the estates You ppl are doing. Heba Aisha (talk) 07:38, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
- Mam everyone in the whole region of Bhagalpur, purnea and Madhepura knows about Tintanga and Murho The both were relatives also Daughter of Ras bechari Babu was married with son of Santlal. Each and everyone from all the castes know about them in their region so they are Notable in their region I am from Brahmin caste and live in a Brahmin village known as saidpur in NAUGACHIA But still here in our village also everyone knows about Maheshwari Babu so they can be called as notable people and I will add proper reference soon i have reference in offline form I m not getting it online as soon as I will get that I will add it. Thanks Ramesh mishra Naugachia (talk) 08:18, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
- See the meaning of notable in context of Wikipedia.Heba Aisha (talk) 08:41, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
- Mam everyone in the whole region of Bhagalpur, purnea and Madhepura knows about Tintanga and Murho The both were relatives also Daughter of Ras bechari Babu was married with son of Santlal. Each and everyone from all the castes know about them in their region so they are Notable in their region I am from Brahmin caste and live in a Brahmin village known as saidpur in NAUGACHIA But still here in our village also everyone knows about Maheshwari Babu so they can be called as notable people and I will add proper reference soon i have reference in offline form I m not getting it online as soon as I will get that I will add it. Thanks Ramesh mishra Naugachia (talk) 08:18, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
Ramesh ji please add more citations I know that what you’re telling is genuine gopas of medinpore Bengal and Tintanaga were of same family as much as I know please confirm this Ramesh ji HindustaniHindu (talk) 08:47, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
Aisha ji please send me any of your social media handle I will send you papers,images arcticle and newspaper cutting of Lalu Yadav meeting zamindars of Tintanga HindustaniHindu (talk) 08:50, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
Image of Lalu yadav with zamindar of tintanga is available on Tintanga estate page also HindustaniHindu (talk) 08:51, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
- You may vote in delition discussion, admins will decide after checking, whether it should be deleted or not. I have no authority to delete. Heba Aisha (talk) 08:54, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
- Mam then delete Murho Estate and Raj Nazurganj also I will combine them all and write in a single page known as Yadav estates in Bihar Ramesh mishra Naugachia (talk) 08:56, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
- In delition discussion section, observe how other editors are voting. If you want merger of all. Vote like this:
- Merge these are related to estate of same caste, may not be notable singly but can be merged together- ur sign here. Best wishes. Heba Aisha (talk) 08:59, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
- In delition discussion section, observe how other editors are voting. If you want merger of all. Vote like this:
- Mam then delete Murho Estate and Raj Nazurganj also I will combine them all and write in a single page known as Yadav estates in Bihar Ramesh mishra Naugachia (talk) 08:56, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
- Yes Hundustani Hindu they came from Nepal and Midanpore Bengal and Tintanga are from same lineage and family Ramesh mishra Naugachia (talk) 08:57, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
How to vote mam please tell me I don't know Ramesh mishra Naugachia (talk) 09:02, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
- Check delition discussion of Majhraut, one guy has voted there.Heba Aisha (talk) 09:03, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
- Mam Raj nazurganj also doesn't have proper citations check that page also Ramesh mishra Naugachia (talk) 09:08, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
- I see, will check later. Basically my concerns are regarding the poor articles from India. People come here and without knowing policy create small articles also called stub, which are like garbage for encyclopedia. Just check this Blitzkrieg. See, how good articles are contributed from west (USA, Europe). Follow them, see the length, writing style, keep everything encyclopedic. Heba Aisha (talk) 09:12, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
Don’t delete Tintanga Estate
I have written this article after talking with descendants and localas of that area many reference are available offline when I’ll get them online I will add it I’ll try to improve the page and citations to my Best please don’t delete the page you can confirm all the information written in page from any local of Naugachia and a thesis is also present about Tinatanga in Bnmu collage Madhepura HindustaniHindu (talk) 07:38, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
- Read my comments here User talk:Ramesh mishra Naugachia. Heba Aisha (talk) 07:40, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
- Heba aisha ji that much information can’t be written in single page called Yadav estate Tintanga estate is very popular in the region in which it is situated so many Images of Santlal Gop ,Maheswari prasad and their bhawan and Maheswari brothers petrol pump can’t be added in a page if I write a page called Yadav estate and second thing is war between dacoits are mentioned in Ref 2 of dr R Kumari this page isn’t a stub it contains many useful informations with picture as a proof I will add more reliable citations HindustaniHindu (talk) 08:39, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
- I will talked about it from Many if Bihari friends from Bahagalpur and Madhepura and almost everyone knows about Tintanga I you will give me your social media handle I will send you images of Papers ,Books and Thesis which tells about Tintanga and Gop zamindars They came from Nepal and established estates in Medinpore west Bengal and in Bhagalpur you can also get information about Gopegarh in google HindustaniHindu (talk) 08:44, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
- Many of
- If you will give
- Sorry for typing mistake HindustaniHindu (talk) 08:45, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
- Brother, keep the article encyclopedic. Please read the article about other such estates to see, how a good article looks like. Adding the information like he has patrol pump etc etc amounts to violation of neutral point of view. In such case someone will revert that even if it is sourced. The article's content need to be encyclopedic. Heba Aisha (talk) 08:49, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
You are targeting a specific community
I have noticed that you have problem with a specific caste and community and you’re removing articles related to Them I have mailed. Wikipedia and also reported your account here for vandalising and targeting a specific community HindustaniHindu (talk) 11:57, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks, go ahead, actually that specific community related articles are at disruptive mode right now. Few days before, another caste article faced the same. But, they forget, its not a place for caste promotion and the basic problem is they fail to read long list of our policies and see us as monopolising everything. Heba Aisha (talk) 12:00, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
What your rules you are nothing but an ordinary editor like us who is just a little bit old user and don’t forget I am chandraveer urs we are rulers of Karnataka and you are From History thief thing who stole history of Rajasthani Ruling community but Bihari descendants of sri k have estates like Nazurgunj,murho and dominate the whole Bihar state that’s why you’re jealous of them HindustaniHindu (talk) 12:19, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
Heba aisha please check Raj Nazurganj and its references quickly Ramesh mishra Naugachia (talk) 12:48, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazargunj check this None of the citation mentions about majhraut and All India yadav mahasabha all reference are not relatable delete this also Ramesh mishra Naugachia (talk) 12:51, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
Check Raj Nazurganj
Raj Nazurganj on zamindars of Bihar doesn't have proper reference it should also be deleted or merged Ramesh mishra Naugachia (talk) 15:53, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
Raj Nazarganj was a rich Zamindari estate and is still present. Raj Mohan Lal of this riyasat fought the battle of Plassey along with Daulah . He was a close friend of Daulah Vrishni (talk) 21:38, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
- How many sources you can find for them, since written records are almost nil, they are considered non notable for wikipedia. See WP:Notability. Heba Aisha (talk) 21:41, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
There are the ruins of the palace. The family descendents are still present. They were among the founders and hosted Yadavas Mahasabha. Vrishni (talk) 21:48, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
- Have they found mention in books, newspaper articles and magazine. Why don't you click link of notability i shared above to read, what is requirement of a seperate article. Blame not us, but the people who didn't mention them in writings. If someone had written their history, they had easily founded place here. Ask this question to those people who monopolised education in ancient period.Heba Aisha (talk) 21:52, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
Belwarganj Estate lacks reference
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belwarganj Estate check this page Ramesh mishra Naugachia (talk) 03:23, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
Koeri
Hello:
The copy edit you requested from the Guild of Copy Editors of the article Koeri has been completed.
Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.
Please go through my copy edit and make sure that I have understood what the article was saying and that my edits have not changed the meaning.
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- Twofingered Typist, thanks a ton, you did a commendable job. Can I request you to expand intro, so as to summarise the whole article. As, you have read it properly. I just want the tag to be removed. Heba Aisha (talk) 18:37, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
- Heba AishaIt's done. Very straightforward. Twofingered Typist (talk) 19:21, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
Deletion of subject
Hi, Kindly don't delete any information or subject without knowing the correct information. I am Himanshu Singh Baigoman from Baigoman village. It was a zamindari estate till 2004. Do visit this village for your confirmation. Thank you.
Don't delete it. Himanshubaigoman (talk) 19:49, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
- It's out of mistake, I was reverting a sock. Heba Aisha (talk) 20:15, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
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Thank you
Your fabulous work on kushwaha related articles has encouraged me to join Wikipedia I thank you for for you work here especially in kushwaha articles I wish I someday I can also become like you and by the way I am also doing Ma from History from Patna University Himanshu Kushwaha 01 (talk) 05:56, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
Heba aisha ji
Mam I just after joining came to your page since I am been following your edits as an ip user for long time. And I went on those pages through your edits I don't have any type of problem with any investigation as I haven't done anything wrong i thought you'll take it in positive way and reply me give me some information about Wikipedia editing but you took that in a wrong way if I disturbed you I am sorry for that
Shital V Yadav
If you born by mixed product of pig ??
Is Vipin ahir your sister's husband ?? but I don't you who is your sister's husband ?
if you you born by one father then you reply madarchod otherwise you born by hybrid banhanchod ??
due to you my id was blocked. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.57.10.49 (talk) 04:02, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
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May 2021
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Please remember to assume good faith when dealing with other editors, which you did not do on Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Chariotrider555. Stop making accusations/ allegations and personal comments against other users without providing evidence,this is serious lack of assumption of good faith ,You've done this few times. next violations will get you reported . Ratnahastin (talk) 02:15, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
Whitewashing of history by caste warriors.
Hi Heba and LukeEmily, there's been continuous vandalism on Hindi Wikipedia, being done under sole purpose of cherry picking good things and hiding of facts on pages like Rajput, Banaphar, Alha, Udal, etc for the sake of whitewashing the reality. You guys have more expertise in caste related articles please check and help correcting it. 43.251.222.178 (talk) 08:32, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hi, I work only on English Wikipedia. Someone else might be able to take a look. Kautilya3, Chariotrider555 , HinduKshatrana might be able to help.LukeEmily (talk) 16:06, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
- Yep, I only work on English Wikipedia as well. Chariotrider555 (talk) 17:24, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
- Wait... Again! I actually translated these Banaphar, Alha and Udal articles from English to Hindi Wikipedia just few days back and now they're messed up by these claimants. Check this editor's contributions. He/She is on Wikipedia, literally just for these 3-4 articles. रोहित साव27, हिंदुस्थान वासी or QueerEcofeminist might be able to do something about it, they're more active.HinduKshatrana (talk) 18:12, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
- Yep, I only work on English Wikipedia as well. Chariotrider555 (talk) 17:24, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
- Requested protection of udal, and reported the vandals.Ratnahastin (talk) 01:46, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
- Lemme check and get back here. QueerEcofeminist[they/them/their] 18:29, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
- Requested protection of udal, and reported the vandals.Ratnahastin (talk) 01:46, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
- Very sorry guys, I edit from cellphone device and nowadays very busy in preparation of my examination scheduled to be held on 10 October. I have many pending works to do here, which i'll do after full fledged return. Decided to write two articles but my books, which were scheduled to be delievered are stuck due to strict lockdown. On Hindi wikipedia, i face typing problem, and i am not known to established editors there like here. I have seen QueerEcofeminist active there and people tagged above by HinduKshatrana also edit caste articles. Heba Aisha (talk) 16:20, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- I again checked it today and this user is still doing the same. The user Sumit Banaphar is making disruptive edits over many articles there. Check edit history of them. Again would like to concern रोहित साव27, हिंदुस्थान वासी, QueerEcofeminist and Kautilya3 to check the situation over Hindi Wiki. I've also made a complaint over there. Thanks HinduKshatrana (talk) 10:39, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
- Also, we seriously do need you Heba Aisha and LukeEmily on hindi-wiki. It's been regularly messed up day by day with the types of editors that you guys have faced over here. HinduKshatrana (talk) 12:33, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
- I again checked it today and this user is still doing the same. The user Sumit Banaphar is making disruptive edits over many articles there. Check edit history of them. Again would like to concern रोहित साव27, हिंदुस्थान वासी, QueerEcofeminist and Kautilya3 to check the situation over Hindi Wiki. I've also made a complaint over there. Thanks HinduKshatrana (talk) 10:39, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
Luv-Kush equation
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The copy edit you requested from the Guild of Copy Editors of the article Luv-Kush equation has been completed.
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In the Electoral performance of the Samata Party (1994-2005) I masked one sentence which I simply could not decipher. Otherwise, I hope my copy edit has not changed the meaning of any part of the article.
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- Thanks, will see and make u aware Heba Aisha (talk) 14:29, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
June 2021
Please stop disruptive editing. Your recent edits on Biharis dated 16 May, 21 May and 6 June don't appear constructive. Its evident that all these edits were directed at restoring the Bihari fisherman image which I have removed from the page thrice giving proper edit summary. Me and LukeEmily had already made it clear on Talk:Rajput that the image isn't fit for Wikipedia platform and hence, it won't be used. Still, you didn't care to give any proper edit summary and reverted to your preferred versions saying "disruptive editing reversed". If you think my image removal was disruptive, you should have explained how. You have been reminded of WP:OWN repeatedly but still you don't seem to be understanding. I am removing the image for the last time considering that you won't make similar restoration again. Shinjoya (talk) 09:28, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
100% agreed with Shinjoya.KashKarti (talk) 19:49, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
Shinjoya A lot of disruptive edit has taken place there and image is not contentious, its your personal opinion Shinjoya. Heba Aisha (talk) 09:57, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
Original image captions
Can you please restore the original image captions in Ezhava page? Original image caption has changed from thiyya to ezhava , which is a violation of the source — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.97.173.249 (talk) 13:20, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
Advaita2222
Brake the 3er policy , do sumthing
July 2021
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Politics in Bihar disruptive reversion
Hi
I had made very painstaking addition of relevant information to [of Bihar] which was a completely neutral and factual addition. In fact, this was added with relevant citations from BBC and other reputed sources. But it appears that you have reverted those changes saying "Useless changes reverted". I strongly denounce this action. If you had a problem, you could have added a comment on the "Talk Page" where I had made an edit to the page.
I checked your page and see you have done a lot of good work over the time, especially for Bihar pages. But it also appears that you have reminded of WP:OWN repeatedly and you seem to forget the collaborative nature of Wikipedia. I request you to undo your undo, or give a good reason for doing as such. I will wait 3 days for your response, otherwise I will make the undo myself.
I thank you for your cooperation.
Hparashar1520 (talk) 10:52, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
- Hi, good contribution are always welcomed. Please, summarise the changes you made in the article here. I think unintentionally you removed some content. We can fix it together. Also, let me remind you of WP:CIR, in your version, the links were broken at many place. In introduction itself, the link to Vikassheel Insaan Party etc were deteriorated and it appeared that someone has demaged the article. Please, put in points the content which you removed or added and changes you made or you want to make here. Heba Aisha (talk) 12:26, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
o Thanks for the reply. I will summarize those points in the Talk Section of the Page, which I feel is a more appropriate platform. I am planning to do it in some time.
Hparashar1520 (talk) 13:33, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
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Why I am blocked ?
Hi, Kuru and Bishonen, sorry to disturb both of you. But, I am not active nowadays and I don't know, why I am blocked. I think it was directed towards someone else as the accusations of posting spam links are not true for me. Please, check the issue, I think Kuru was doing this for some ip users and by mistake I was blocked. I am able to edit only my talk page, that's y bringing all of you here. Heba Aisha (talk) 05:01, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
- Heba, according to the log, you are not blocked.[9] You must have been caught in an autoblock. I'm not good with this... but I think if you tell me exactly what your block message says, I'll be able to fix it. What I need is a number of the form #12345678. Is there one? Bishonen | tålk 07:43, 18 November 2021 (UTC).
- Howdy, Heba. Apologies for any inconvenience. I think Bishonen is on the right track; this is likely residual from a block placed on a named account. There is an "autoblock" that is placed behind the scenes on the underlying IP address. If you give us that number, we can clear it quickly for you. You can also just wait it out - the autoblocks are for a relatively short period of time (usually 24 hours). Happy to help. Kuru (talk) 12:30, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
- Yeah, Kuru and Bishonen, the blocking message shows a number, #11824613. This is the one. Hope it was helpful.Thank you both. Will soon return to contribute here. Heba Aisha (talk) 16:46, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, it was; I found this. Kuru, apparently it's from a rangeblock of yours. I'm not sure how to let Heba out without undoing the whole thing, which is probably not desirable. You'd better deal with it. Bishonen | tålk 17:25, 18 November 2021 (UTC).
- Since it wasn't an autoblock, but a hardblock, then WP:IPBE is probably the best way (assuming hardblocking was intentional, which I think it was). Block has about half a year to go. --Floquenbeam (talk) 17:46, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
- [Pathetically:] Floquenbeam, I don't understand how to do that. It's a mystery. You do it! Don't drive by! [Pointedly:] You know only one of us does rangeblocks, and it ain't you. Please do this instead. Please? Kuru isn't editing now. Bishonen | tålk 20:33, 18 November 2021 (UTC).
- This was more for @Kuru:, I just forgot to ping. For some reason I don't understand, people around here take IPBE a LOT more serious than I really think they need to, so I'm supposed to get the OK from the blocking admin or CU before giving out the IPBE right. Now that Kuru knows which block this is, they can either give IPBE themselves, or I'll do it once I get an OK. My understanding from Heba's comment above is that this isn't a rush; if I misunderstood and she wants to be able to edit right now, and Kuru isn't around, then I'll go out on a limb. But otherwise I'd like to wait for a bit. Heba, let me know if I misunderstood. --Floquenbeam (talk) 20:53, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
- [Pathetically:] Floquenbeam, I don't understand how to do that. It's a mystery. You do it! Don't drive by! [Pointedly:] You know only one of us does rangeblocks, and it ain't you. Please do this instead. Please? Kuru isn't editing now. Bishonen | tålk 20:33, 18 November 2021 (UTC).
- Since it wasn't an autoblock, but a hardblock, then WP:IPBE is probably the best way (assuming hardblocking was intentional, which I think it was). Block has about half a year to go. --Floquenbeam (talk) 17:46, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, it was; I found this. Kuru, apparently it's from a rangeblock of yours. I'm not sure how to let Heba out without undoing the whole thing, which is probably not desirable. You'd better deal with it. Bishonen | tålk 17:25, 18 November 2021 (UTC).
- Yeah, Kuru and Bishonen, the blocking message shows a number, #11824613. This is the one. Hope it was helpful.Thank you both. Will soon return to contribute here. Heba Aisha (talk) 16:46, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
- Howdy, Heba. Apologies for any inconvenience. I think Bishonen is on the right track; this is likely residual from a block placed on a named account. There is an "autoblock" that is placed behind the scenes on the underlying IP address. If you give us that number, we can clear it quickly for you. You can also just wait it out - the autoblocks are for a relatively short period of time (usually 24 hours). Happy to help. Kuru (talk) 12:30, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
Thank you guys, Floquenbeam and Bishonen for giving your precious time here. I am unblocked now and able to edit. Thanks a lot. Heba Aisha (talk) 22:55, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
- That's a really ugly one, but it's easy enough to spot the named accounts that show up doing that type of activity. It's easier for me to handle them one-by-one than it is for you to be inconvenienced, so I've removed the part of the range block that prevents named accounts from editing from that range. Really sorry you were impacted. Kuru (talk) 23:05, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you for quick response Kuru. Happy editing. Heba Aisha (talk) 23:08, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
Propoganda editing only
Hi sir this person https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/RS6784 is always editing Wikipedia for his Pro-Rajput caste and Anti-Gurjar / Anti-Ahir propoganda. Please see his edits. 2401:4900:5044:DE12:A487:6B00:46D4:795D (talk) 08:06, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
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A question for you sir ?
Sir what you think of when some editors creating cast base wiki page and mentioned there Varna by simply based on some journal and some books by British author. Is there any documents where you can relate the vadic period varna system to the cast system which was actually created in the time of British rule. This is not a good sign for India. Should be addressed as soon as possible. When we try to progress our society this type of content will take us back. Hope you are mature enough sir . Of you want I will mention the name of the editor. S Das0406 (talk) 19:01, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
- (talk page watcher)Cast[e] system was created in the time of British rule? Read your Dirks properly. TrangaBellam (talk) 19:29, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
Happy new era
- That's awesome way to say, happy new year. Happy New year to you too. Heba Aisha (talk) 10:46, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
Change of the history without clear the ancient proofs
You changed the original caste quality and play with the community Keep it back with the same as previous details of the lodha kshatriya caste. 111.223.26.65 (talk) 09:44, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Writer's Barnstar | |
Keep up the good work . Also have a look at Lodha Caste article. Looks like it needs to be rewritten. Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:01, 1 March 2022 (UTC) |
- Fylindfotberserk, thanks a lot. This barnstar was awesome and so was the experience that you recalled me here after a long time. Heba Aisha (talk) 12:59, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
- I was wishing to give it to you before, but I was not editing for a year, so . - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 13:01, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
Hello
Hi Heba, Hope you are doing well. Not sure if you are watching all the pages you edited, but I noticed that the Mallah fishermen image you had added was removed from Rajputization . It is currently not being used anywhere in any article. Please see this edit [10]. LukeEmily (talk) 20:33, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
- Hi Heba, please can you add Bihari Rajput to your watchlist? I noticed someone deleted some quotes and William Pinch's source. Are Bihari Rajputs also in Awadh?LukeEmily (talk) 23:41, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
April 2022
Hello. I wanted to let you know that in your recent contributions to Rajputisation, you seemed to act as if you were the owner of the page. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to Wikipedia. This means that editors do not own articles, including ones they create, and should respect the work of their fellow contributors. If you create or edit an article, remember that others are free to change its content. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. please don't try to WP:OWN articles, you cannot revert to your previous versions like as per your recent contribution suggests you did the same here on Bihari Rajput page as well skipping relevant edits done by other previous editors. This is like pushing your own pov and obstructing other editors from making good contribution RS6784 (talk) 11:02, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
Please do not use misleading edit summaries when making changes to Wikipedia pages, as you did to Rajput. This behavior is viewed as disruptive, and continuation may result in loss of editing privileges. there was no edit war going on the page today but unfortunately you wrote edit warring in the edit summary of your edit in order to mass delete the contribution of other editors. Please don't repeat the same RS6784 (talk) 14:12, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
Please do not assume ownership of articles as you did at Upper Backward Castes. If you aren't willing to allow your contributions to be edited extensively or be redistributed by others, please do not submit them. This is your second notice from me, do not revert back to a particular revision , overriding all the edits done, just because u disagree with one edit. You should either edit out only the portion you feel is incorrect or discuss on talk page, but such owning of pages on wikipedia is a strict no Lord 0f Avernus (talk) 06:33, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Forward caste. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. Repeated vandalism may result in the loss of editing privileges. This [11] doesnt match with the source provided Lord 0f Avernus (talk) 11:10, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
Trying to own Bihari rajput page
Hello. I wanted to let you know that in your recent contributions to Bihari Rajput, you seemed to act as if you were the owner of the page. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to Wikipedia. This means that editors do not own articles, including ones they create, and should respect the work of their fellow contributors. If you create or edit an article, remember that others are free to change its content. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you.Lord 0f Avernus (talk) 05:23, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
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Wrt Image on Bihari Rajput
Please demonstrate WP:DGF here, also there are questions wrt WP:REL of the image, the content of the page doesn't suggest the community is like that. Total misleading the readers as well wrong intention on the part of editor. Discuss on talk page first. Thanks and Best RS6784 (talk) 04:08, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
- I had raised the similar point on other pages 7 months ago where you along with your certain specific friendly editors tried to do the same. You didn't even engage on the talk page discussion there. RS6784 (talk) 04:09, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
- There is also issue with WP:RS of the image, I tried to find it but didn't found in any journal. Considering the pages related to community are being targeted in a negative manner by certain vested interests as the talk pages of the articles also suggests. It becomes important to cite where the image is belonging to the community. The article to any social grp is not a trolling page RS6784 (talk) 04:11, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
- I may have to take the matter to admin regarding your different behaviour on two pages in similar case: WP:DGF on your part, your contribution suggests you tried to add fake image on Bihari Rajput but on a certain other pages like [[12]] ( in which it seems you carry some favourable bias) you are trying to quote my point to remove that image. Surprising ! RS6784 (talk) 10:23, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
- I have accepted your claim at Bihari Rajput and not going to insert that image again till i found verification for that. The same thing applies here too. Be calm RS6784 and assume WP: Good faithHeba Aisha (talk) 10:31, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
- I may have to take the matter to admin regarding your different behaviour on two pages in similar case: WP:DGF on your part, your contribution suggests you tried to add fake image on Bihari Rajput but on a certain other pages like [[12]] ( in which it seems you carry some favourable bias) you are trying to quote my point to remove that image. Surprising ! RS6784 (talk) 10:23, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
- Good, that you accepted it here but sorry it took you 2 months to do this. Didn't you tried to insert fake image again on an encyclopaedia article page just some days before? Once again I making it clear community page and encyclopaedia articles are not trolling pages. And we as editors should always take care of it. The obsession with fake image showed WP:Bad faith. I hope this will be understood now. Thanks and Best RS6784 (talk) 10:40, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
- RS6784, Stick to the present discussion please, the situation was different at that time. Give me the opportunity to take your consent with respect to removal of the user generated image on Koeri and Kushwaha also on the same ground. I used to believe in WP: Goodfaith on the part of other editors, but i understood that WP:Verifiablity is required before inserting such user generated images in caste articles. Would like to contribute with you on these pages in a better way. Thanks.Heba Aisha (talk) 10:44, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
- RS6784,you seem to be a sensible editor with good knowledge about wiki policies. Before doing large scale changes in disputed articles, please let me know. There is always a scope for mutual consent from my side. Best wishes and best of luck.Heba Aisha (talk) 10:50, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
- RS6784, Stick to the present discussion please, the situation was different at that time. Give me the opportunity to take your consent with respect to removal of the user generated image on Koeri and Kushwaha also on the same ground. I used to believe in WP: Goodfaith on the part of other editors, but i understood that WP:Verifiablity is required before inserting such user generated images in caste articles. Would like to contribute with you on these pages in a better way. Thanks.Heba Aisha (talk) 10:44, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
Administrator incidents
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April 22
Please read wp:point. Slatersteven (talk) 18:08, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
Noticeboard incident for harassment
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. RuudVanClerk (talk) 18:26, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
May 2022
You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you disrupt Wikipedia. this is needed for your 3 reverts on Rajput page. RS6784 (talk) 10:32, 4 May 2022 (UTC)