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== Monday September 16, 2024 - Update ==

Awaiting your help with review:

*[[WHO declares global mpox emergency, UNICEF prepares conditional vaccine supply agreements]] Aug 14, interview (Gryllida refused to review as topic unfamiliar)
*[[Salvadoran director of National Civil Police Mauricio Arriaza Chicas dies in helicopter crash]] September 9 or 8 (Gryllida cannot review as was involved in editing)
*[[Global Witness reports almost 200 environmental activist killings in 2023]] September 10
*[[33,000 Boeing machinists go on strike]] September 13
*[[Poland declares state of disaster due to severe floods]] September 15 or earlier
Published within last 7 days:
*[[Four killed in Apalachee High School shooting in Georgia, United States]] Sep 9th
*[[Around 8,000 Rohingya Muslims have fled to Bangladesh]] Sep 10th
Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 02:24, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

:Deleted within last seven days. Mostly as abandoned. Many due to lack of reviewer or copyediting author. Is some more analysis needed?
:* [[Billboard Korea recognizes Philippine P-Pop group BINI and SB19 as 'Voices of Asia']]
:* [[On the campaign trail in the USA, June 2024]]
:* [[Hezbollah fires rockets at the Golan Heights]]
:* [[Human Rights Watch finds intentional targeting of civilians by Hamas]]
:* [[Police kill woman after mental health call by brother, police say in Fort Lee, New Jersey]]
:* [[Russia says that Ukraine has launched an incursion into Kursk Oblast]]
:* [[Two people found dead in Bel Air, Maryland house explosion]]
:* [[2024 Wayanad landslides]]
:* [[Digital education in São Paulo, Brazil: More problems than solutions?]]
:* [[Rahul Kumar Success Story: Turning Setbacks into Stepping Stones - A Journey From Bihar To Earning Lakhs]]
:* [[Destructive windstorm hits São Paulo, Brazil: 3 injured and gusts reach 80 km/h]]
:* [[Tens of thousands attend royal Maori funeral, coronation]]
:* [[51 killed, 271 injured in a Russian missile strike in Poltava]]
:* [[UN secretary-general warns about rising sea levels]]
:* [[Ukraine reports Russia's losses since the invasion]]
:* [[US Supreme Court rules that Trump is immune from prosecution for official acts]]
:* [[Google reports thirteen percent increase in greenhouse gas emissions]]
:* [[Australian Education Minister Jason Clare proposes legislation prioritizing rural institutions in international students cap]]
:* [[US Congressman Brad Schneider says his Capitol office was vandalized]]
:* [[Patrick Bertoletti wins Nathan's hot dog eating contest]]
:* [[The 19th edition of Wikimania - a global gathering of creators of Wikipedia and other Wikimedia projects - began on August 7 in Katowice.]]
:* [[Pope Francis starts his longest trip yet as Catholic Church pivots to Asia]]
:* [[Roman-Era Human Remains Discovered at Rolls-Royce Site in Bristol]]
:* [[Album of the Year adds Cloudflare protection, with detrimental side effect of preventing web archiving]]
:* [[Hunter Biden files a lawsuit against Fox News for a "mock trial" of him]]
:* [[Brazilian presenter Silvio Santos dies at 93]]
:* [[Bangladesh's 'Gen Z Revolution' Topples PM Sheikh Hasina]]
:* [[Tropical Storm Debby effects Florida, going up coast]]
:* [[Patrick Bertoletti and Miki Sudo win Nathan's hot dog eating contest]]
:* [[Stabbing at mall in Karmiel, Israel]]
:* [[Attempted coup in Ukraine thwarted]]
:* [[Joe Biden drops out of 2024 election]]
:* [[Romania's Vifor wind farm set to power 270,000 homes by 2025]]
:* [[Imran Khan's detention is arbitrary and a violation, says UN Working Group]]
:* [[Baptist Children’s Homes invites guest speaker Charles Petty to speak about work, life, and family]]
:* [[IDF says 2 soldiers killed on Monday in Gaza]]
:* [[Police officer in Osage Beach, Missouri dies after suspect chase and crash]]
:Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 02:48, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
:Update [https://finance.yahoo.com/news/machinist-jobs-safe-now-boeing-185335010.html] [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:03, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

== Urgent - OR? - Sourcing requirements - [[Russian_Wikipedia:_now_2,000,000_articles]] ==

Based on source 1, this is original reporting, correct? It is a technical forum discussion.

For original reporting are two independent sources still required? Source 2 is written by the same user, the article author here.

Thank you in advance for your help, it would help me to review the story quickly.

Event date: September 18

Time now: 11:20, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

It is '''3 days old''' now, leaving only about 3 more days for review (including communication with the author).

Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:20, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

:Before I saw your comment on the talk page, I was about to review and fail the article because it does not have two independent sources that support the focal event. I was also going mention that press releases do not support newsworthiness.[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Newsworthy_and_neutral#When_is_a_press_release_news%3F] —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]) 13:48, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
::Hi @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]]! Why did my comment stop you? Is original reporting not required to have two independent sources? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 02:04, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
:::Nope. But it's not tagged as OR and no notes were provided, so it is, by default, synthesis. We have a longstanding principle Wikipedia is not a reliable source, as it does itself, and comments in a Wikipedia discussion hardly meet muster as capable of factual verification of anything more than that some folks wrote them, OR or not. The press release faces the same issue, to say nothing of its circular sourcing issue. For articles, like these, I think we're best relying on official PR/technical statistics (attributing in both cases, naturally), though the former may rely on the latter. Moreover, I'm wondering about relevance, especially in light of [[WN:Newsworthiness#The Wikimedia exception|another longstanding principle ours stipulating news about Wikimedia has to clear a higher bar for relevance]]. Are we to cover every increment of, say 500,000, or a million entries in every Wikimedia wiki that achieves such? I think if you look at the examples provided at that link, you can see the distinction I'm drawing between this sort of newsletter focal event and a focal event with relevance throughout Wikimedia or beyond. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 03:43, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
::::Well, you understand that in our country not a single mass media outlet would dare to publish such news. I barely found one brave soul. [[User:Lesless|Lesless]] ([[User talk:Lesless|talk]]) 09:39, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
:::::[https://3dnews.ru/1111198/v-russkoyazichnoy-vikipedii-stalo-bolee-2-millionov-statey 3DNews] and [https://dtf.ru/life/3008877-chislo-statei-v-russkoi-vikipedii-prevysilo-2-milliona DTF] did --[[User:Ssr|Ssr]] ([[User talk:Ssr|talk]]) 10:17, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
::::::Hi [[User:Ssr|Ssr]]
::::::Thank you very much. It helps for independent source, especially the first one. The second one is rather short and is a social media. It does not help to verify two questions, the first one I consider essential:
::::::* which page was the 2000000th - how is this confirmed
::::::* what is "Cebuano, Warai" and "Dutch, Swedish"
::::::(Maybe on article talk template {{tl|question}} and {{tl|done}} can be used more often, or something else to clarify that it is still awaiting reply.)
::::::I usually use programs on wiki well, just my current environment is a little too overcrowded with tasks, and help would be greatly appreciated.
::::::Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:14, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
:::::::I remedied one of the issues by attribution, e.g.,specified which source this infornation came from. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:06, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
* {{ping|Lesless}} it's just useless to talk to them here in English Wikinews. They have a strong long-standing tradition to oust us, Russian-speaking Wikipedians, from their website by any means. Many-many articles were dropped in such way. They have harsh policies of ousting people that they just don't like. It's contrary to all the principles WMF is based on, but nobody cares. --[[User:Ssr|Ssr]] ([[User talk:Ssr|talk]]) 09:10, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
*:Article talk page contains specific questions. They don't close the door. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:02, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
*:{{w|sister=w:ru|Служебная:Вклад/Gryllida}}. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 15:36, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
*::[[Mikhail_Gruznov:_We_do_not_understand_what_is_happening_on_Wikipedia]]. Hey everybody people of good will and of free knowledge! Do not deal with English Wikinews! They are very unwelcome to people of the world. They accept only specific people picked by their doubtful and suspicious criteria. Go to English Russian Wikinews: https://ru.wikinews.org/wiki/en We are much kinder and much more Wiki-devoted. We are [http://wikinews.org the biggest Wikinews] in the whole human history, as well. --[[User:Ssr|Ssr]] ([[User talk:Ssr|talk]]) 06:20, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

:I think this article is topical and that it is very important to have it on Wikinews. I think that there are enough sources and their quality is good enough. [[User:BilboBeggins|BilboBeggins]] ([[User talk:BilboBeggins|talk]]) 07:08, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

== [[Art Outreach By Olusola David Ayibiowu Motivated Visual Art and Science Students in Lagos Schools]] ==

Is this original reporting or is this spamming? It seems like a non-profit. Guy does art education in different schools and reports it in news. Please advise? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 19:47, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

:I thought it looked strange also I didn't think spam though I thought advertising but spam seems appropriate also. Thanks. I also wrote a lengthy reply on the other discussion page. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:58, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
::Whether or not this is a commercial enterprise shouldn't matter. Newsworthiness aside, at a glance it looks like he hasn't got mutually independent sources (all were created by him). Not to mention his glaring COI, directly analogous to Viktor Pinchuk, IMO, and disqualifying of him. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 02:53, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
:::Please use the following web links to access the independent sources concerning the Art Outreach Samsung News.
:::https://player.glb.samsungcast.com/podcast/19f84780-453d-4158-b496-05084ed8c7a4
:::https://player.glb.samsungcast.com/podcast/96913389-633d-4f4a-b1f8-680229c7e9ae
:::https://player.glb.samsungcast.com/podcast/b016cb90-78cf-4e3e-af67-a2365206fa5f
:::https://player.glb.samsungcast.com/podcast/b6bd71dc-31dd-4952-8b0f-0f146fe74221
:::https://player.glb.samsungcast.com/podcast/c0112692-2118-41ac-9825-0505d9453bcb
:::https://player.glb.samsungcast.com/podcast/c6663e7d-5e87-4793-9c27-c0e328140da0
:::https://player.glb.samsungcast.com/podcast/ff7edc22-a7fc-4adb-8a67-cafbe0a3887d
:::https://player.glb.samsungcast.com/podcast/5b42f4bd-55ff-4c23-b6bf-b347313c96a4
:::https://player.glb.samsungcast.com/podcast/812f5df3-a6d7-4635-94ab-aeb146c48832 [[User:EduEditorsNG|EduEditorsNG]] ([[User talk:EduEditorsNG|talk]]) 13:43, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
:::This arev other independent sources. 
:::anotherArt Outreach on Audible last updated 7 Sep 2024
:::Listen on: <nowiki>https://www.amazon.co.uk/Outreach-Olusola-David-Ayibiowu-Curated/dp/B0D9P9L3MB</nowiki>
:::ListenNotes
:::<nowiki>https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-art-outreach/art-outreach-brightens-lagos-s1aWqvl85RH/</nowiki>
:::Goodreads
:::Olusola David, Ayibiowu
:::<nowiki>https://www.goodreads.com/user/show/124528746-olusola-david-ayibiowu</nowiki>
:::iHeart Radio
:::<nowiki>https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1333-a-brush-with-inspiration-199659501/episode/a-brush-with-inspiration-olusola-david-199659506/</nowiki>
:::Best Paste Episode in (2024) 
:::His Art Outreach are listed among the best Pastel Podcast Episode in 2024 on Player FM.
:::Website:
:::<nowiki>https://player.fm/podcasts/pastel</nowiki>
:::Listed:
:::The Art Outreach Brightens Lagos State Govt Schools As Olusola David Ayibiowu Curated
:::Art Outreach in the Eye of Olusola David Ayibiowu as He Curated
:::Goodpods.
:::The best podcasts for understanding how the world works 
:::By Nick Cowan
:::His podcast was listed among the best on Goodpods:
:::The best podcasts for Art Outreach
:::by Olusola D, Ayibiowu
:::Listed:
:::<nowiki>https://goodpods.com/curated-lists/podcasts-for-understanding-how-the-world-works</nowiki>
:::Featured on Freakonomics Radio listed as of the best  Top 10 Freakonomics Radio Episodes.
:::Featured on: Revisionist History
:::Pushkin Industries
:::Top 10 Revisionist History Episodes
:::The best podcasts for understanding how the world works 
:::By Nick Cowan
:::Visit: <nowiki>https://goodpods.com/podcasts/revisionist-history-200</nowiki>
:::Featured on Freakonomics Radio listed as of the best  Top 10 Freakonomics Radio Episodes.
:::The best podcasts for understanding how the world works 
:::By Nick Cowan
:::Visit: <nowiki>https://goodpods.com/podcasts/freakonomics-radio-191</nowiki>
:::Goodpods has curated a list of the 10 best Freakonomics Radio episodes, ranked by the number of listens and likes each episode have garnered from our listeners. If you are listening to Freakonomics Radio for the first time, there's no better place to start than with one of these standout episodes. If you are a fan of the show, vote for your favorite Freakonomics Radio episode by adding your comments to the episode page.
:::Visit: <nowiki>https://goodpods.com/podcasts/freakonomics-radio-191</nowiki>
:::Featured on:
:::The Allusionist
:::Helen Zaltzman
:::Top 10 The Allusionist Episodes
:::The best podcasts for understanding how the world works 
:::By Nick Cowan
:::Visit: <nowiki>https://goodpods.com/podcasts/the-allusionist-11689</nowiki>
:::Featured on: 
:::The Audio Long Read
:::The Guardian
:::Top 10 The Audio Long Read Episodes
:::The best podcasts for understanding how the world works 
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:::<nowiki>https://goodpods.com/podcasts/the-audio-long-read-64662</nowiki>
:::Featured on: 
:::99% Invisible
:::Roman Mars
:::Top 10 99% Invisible Episodes
:::The best podcasts for understanding how the world works 
:::By Nick Cowan
:::Visit:<nowiki>https://goodpods.com/podcasts/99-invisible-11515</nowiki> [[User:EduEditorsNG|EduEditorsNG]] ([[User talk:EduEditorsNG|talk]]) 13:46, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
:::This is another independent source. 
:::* Denise Nanni and Milena Rampoldi http://promosaiknews.com/2017/02/creative-art-solution-foundation-in/ February 26, 2017 ProMosaik
:::[[User:EduEditorsNG|EduEditorsNG]] ([[User talk:EduEditorsNG|talk]]) 14:07, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
::::Hi @[[User:EduEditorsNG|EduEditorsNG]]
::::*Sorry, independent source means: "'''''not authored by Olusola David'''''".
::::** The Amazon source '''''is not an independent source'''''.
::::*A podcast by the creative Art Solution Foundation could do as ''one'' of the sources. 
::::* '''Other independent sources, authored by someone else''' (''and not involving Olusola writing or saying a part of the content'') are required.
::::* Could you please revise your list and only include the independendent sources?
::::[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 21:37, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
:::::Art Outreach by Creative Arts Solution Foundation.
:::::https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/art-outreach-by-creative-arts-solution-foundation/id1762730064 [[User:EduEditorsNG|EduEditorsNG]] ([[User talk:EduEditorsNG|talk]]) 22:36, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
::::::Art Outreach by Creative Arts Solution Foundation.
::::::https://www.amazon.co.uk/Outreach-Creative-Arts-Solution-Foundation/dp/B0DC4PLVWQ [[User:EduEditorsNG|EduEditorsNG]] ([[User talk:EduEditorsNG|talk]]) 22:42, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
:::::::Art Outreach by Creative Arts Solution Foundation
:::::::https://music.amazon.co.uk/podcasts/6c0ac384-864e-42d0-ad9e-d01215611c3d/art-outreach-by-creative-arts-solution-foundation [[User:EduEditorsNG|EduEditorsNG]] ([[User talk:EduEditorsNG|talk]]) 22:51, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
:::::Rephonic.
:::::Art Outreach by Creative Arts Solution Foundation.
:::::https://rephonic.com/podcasts/art-outreach-by-creative-arts-solution-foundation [[User:EduEditorsNG|EduEditorsNG]] ([[User talk:EduEditorsNG|talk]]) 22:58, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
:::::Spotify
:::::https://open.spotify.com/show/0zJ31edsIB8SNlov0vOB25 [[User:EduEditorsNG|EduEditorsNG]] ([[User talk:EduEditorsNG|talk]]) 23:16, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
:::::Castbox.
:::::on fm channel.
:::::Art Outreach by Creative Arts Solution Foundation.
:::::https://castbox.fm/channel/6263726?country=ng [[User:EduEditorsNG|EduEditorsNG]] ([[User talk:EduEditorsNG|talk]]) 23:28, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
:::::Player.fm
:::::Art Outreach by Creative Arts Solution Foundation.
:::::https://player.fm/series/3590920 [[User:EduEditorsNG|EduEditorsNG]] ([[User talk:EduEditorsNG|talk]]) 23:42, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
:::::Audible.
:::::Art Outreach by Creative Arts Solution Foundation.
:::::https://www.audible.com/podcast/Art-Outreach-by-Creative-Arts-Solution-Foundation/B0DC4RGVFV [[User:EduEditorsNG|EduEditorsNG]] ([[User talk:EduEditorsNG|talk]]) 23:45, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
:::::Podcast Republic.
:::::Art Outreach by Creative Arts Solution Foundation.
:::::https://podcastrepublic.net/podcast/1762730064 [[User:EduEditorsNG|EduEditorsNG]] ([[User talk:EduEditorsNG|talk]]) 23:48, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
:::::Podcast Republic.
:::::Outreach by Creative Arts Solution Foundation.
:::::https://podcastrepublic.net/podcast/1762730064 [[User:EduEditorsNG|EduEditorsNG]] ([[User talk:EduEditorsNG|talk]]) 23:58, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
::::::Sorry Mistakenly posted twice. [[User:EduEditorsNG|EduEditorsNG]] ([[User talk:EduEditorsNG|talk]]) 00:04, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
:::::Pocket Cast.
:::::Art Outreach by Creative Arts Solution Foundation.
:::::https://pca.st/aonst0ue [[User:EduEditorsNG|EduEditorsNG]] ([[User talk:EduEditorsNG|talk]]) 00:00, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
::::::Pocket Casts [[User:EduEditorsNG|EduEditorsNG]] ([[User talk:EduEditorsNG|talk]]) 00:03, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
:::::Castro
:::::Art Outreach by Creative Arts Solution Foundation
:::::https://castro.fm/podcast/b6b674bb-cdd5-43fb-a3fc-7388c354f51e [[User:EduEditorsNG|EduEditorsNG]] ([[User talk:EduEditorsNG|talk]]) 00:02, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
:::::RSS feed
:::::Art Outreach by Creative Arts Solution Foundation
:::::https://media.rss.com/art-outreach-by-creative-arts-solution-foundation/feed.xml [[User:EduEditorsNG|EduEditorsNG]] ([[User talk:EduEditorsNG|talk]]) 00:07, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
::::::Hi @[[User:EduEditorsNG|EduEditorsNG]]
::::::As I wrote previously, a source by 'Creative Arts Solution Foundation' can be '''one''' of the sources.
::::::Could you find another source, '''not by Creative Arts Solution Foundation (and not by Olusola David)'''?
::::::The reason why I am asking this is because [[WN:NOT|Wikinews articles are not press releases]]: we can't report on an event in which one organisation did it, and also the only source of the news report. We cannot verify whether what it says is true or not. The news report becomes '''[[:wikt:unverifiable|unverifiable]]'''.
::::::Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:11, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

== Post publish edits to the Pagers story. #accidents #lebanon #technology URGENT (within 24 hours after publishing) ==

I worked on the pagers story a bit today -- post publish edits. If it is not only minor edits that are allowed post publication, then please review?

Thank you!

Regards -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 13:44, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

== Viktor promotion ==

I mean I saw [[User:Виктор Пинчук|Виктор Пинчук]] articles were criticized for him reporting on his own exhibit. It sounded to me it could be '''easy to change''', from 'Victor presented unusual textbook at literary festival' to reporting on the entire festival, where and how it was held and how many people participated, what were other talks or exhibits on it, and so on. Victor could easily interview several different people there and include this into his story along with the part about his book. (Which is freely licensed, so it is less of an issue than a book which is only available by purchase.) I wanted to get a note from several contributors here '''confirming it is a sane idea''', so it is confirmed before Victor starts working on this and we do not have a situation where he wrote as I suggested and it turned out again it was not publishable. Thank you! --[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 02:51, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
===Argument ===
The article talks about the only participant of the literary festival who presented a work '''in English''' and published this work (as stated above) under a free license in one of the Wikimedia projects. But it is really possible to add one or two paragraphs about the other participants. — [[User:Виктор Пинчук|Виктор Пинчук]] ([[User talk:Виктор Пинчук|talk]]) 05:29, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

== [[Hololive talent Watson Amelia announces end to her streaming activities]] ==

This was written on September 22 about a September 20 event. It reads as promotional to me. Is this only because of the vocabulary ("a talent of the English-speaking branch of VTuber agency") -- which is perhaps typical in this industry? Or is it an issue that all this whole article is about one person? I requested author to clarify at the talk page of the article. An additional insight from another contributor, perhaps someone more familiar with this topic, would be very welcomed. Thank you. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 05:16, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

:Hi, the word 'talent' seems common, author will possibly be able to clarify.
:Is this article newsworthy - could you please confirm - as it is not about a nobel prize laureate or a widely known person - please confirm this for me as it will help me with the review.
:Thank you very much. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 01:54, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

== [[Hizbullah Usir 2 Jet Tempur Israel]] grammar editing may be desired ==

Author may have a language barrier. I have this long "sleep" thing for a while so if you are keen, welcome to revise. Thanks heaps. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 13:15, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

:I made some changes and it requires more: e.g. the quotations are not 100% grammatical, but I'm hesitant to change a quote. Also, the article uses "Hezbollah", which is a more common transliteration, but the title is "Hizbullah". That's just odd.
:Good luck with your medical condition. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (ko'''a'''vf)]]❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯ 16:41, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
::Thank you very much [[User:Koavf|Justin (ko'''a'''vf)]]❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯ for your help!
::The foreign language sources can be marked as such, there is a template for it. Example [[The_Ancient_Pyramids_of_the_World,_a_new_photo_exhibition_by_Viktor_Pinchuk_took_place_in_Crimea#Sources|HERE]].
::The quotations aren't proper grammar because the contributor does not speak English well; if you don't mind please you can use an automatic translator or two (DeepL, Google Translate, Libre Translate) or ask at a foreign language Wikipedia for help, and leave a note on article talk -- as a reviewer doing these changes would make them disqualified from reviewing.
::I've reached to an Indonesian contributor off-wiki for assistance. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 02:02, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
:::The correct tanslated title should be "Hezbollah repelled two Israeli warplanes".
:::"Hizbullah" is a word that is spoken by an Indonesian. [[User:Yonlecoder|Yonlecoder]] ([[User talk:Yonlecoder|talk]]) 05:04, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
::::Thank you! It is red link in heading, if you click it, you will see the new page name. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:34, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

== boeing update ==

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5y064gz1e3o Boeing withdrew pay rise offer to striking workers [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:31, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

== Mailing lists ==

I made pages here

<s>[[User:Gryllida/Notifications/New/Develop]]</s>

[[:Category:Gryllida/notify/new/develop]] (news draft just made)

<s>[[User:Gryllida/Notifications/New/Review]]</s>

[[:Category:Gryllida/notify/new/review]] (news just submitted for review)

[[:Category:Gryllida/notify/new/publish]] (news just published)

They work like mailing list, they leave messages to talk pages. Administrator or user with "massmessage" permission can use [[Special:MassMessage]] to send message to these pages. Unfortunately only to this wiki. If you want to get notified about new drafts created or being submitted for review please <s>let me know to add you to the list</s> add your talk page to the respective category.

'''I expect all reviewers to action this please'''. Non reviewers are welcome to join too.

Notifications will be sent manually at first and then later I will write a script/bot which will need massmessage permissions.

I hope this will help to get more prompt revised articles to meet primitive requirements: "event is fresh, sources provided, 5W answered".

'''It is my proposal that you are only obligated to verify the 5W and not everything''' as this makes review a lot lighter work.

And more reviews. If everyone does one published in a week it helps. I cannot publish most as I often edit and am involved.

Note I am writing a series of tiny articles which only include 5W and nearly nothing else. They should be easy to review.

Regardless of your decision could you all please '''reply to this message and confirm you received it''', and even better if you comment on some of the above?

Please let me know if any comments or questions. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 08:13, 11 October 2024 (UTC) Edited 09:24, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

:@[[User:Acagastya|Acagastya]] [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 08:13, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
:Note, you may want to either
:* '''check your preferences''' to ensure new messages to your talk page generate an email, and a valid email is set. check email regularly
:or
:* login to a wiki regularly and check notifications. ensure new messages to your talk page are set to generate a notification 
:Regards, 🙂 [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 09:35, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
::At the moment, I am able to find newly created articles without an additional system. However, I am curious about the other proposal. Is that a type of pre-review? I'd like to hear more about how it works. I'm not sure I understand it completely. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]) 15:28, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
:::I recommend the following actions for reviewers, to be done immediately: CC @[[User:RockerballAustralia|RockerballAustralia]]
:::1. join the so-called 'mailing lists' i linked in assistance water cooler
:::* https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler/assistance#Mailing_lists
:::** {{done}} by @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] as checks recent changes anyway so N/A
:::2. confirm that you are okay establishing two new recommendations for reviewers:
:::* only verify the 5Ws and copyright (no plagiarism) for until end of the year
:::** @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] requested clarification, so I'll word this again: when you see article with three paragraphs, I am proposing that you '''only''' check for plagiarism and 5Ws in first paragraph being accurate, and not necessarily check the rest, in interest of freshness.
:::***If any information seems unsourced, unless it is absolutely essential (i.e., part of 5Ws), it needs to be '''removed immediately''' and a note posted on talk. This should not delay the publication. The article authors or other contributors should aim to resolve the query within 24 hours of article publication.
:::3. subscribe to page 'assistance' of water cooler, and provide your responses (they don't have to be long; one line is sufficient) to questions asked there, checking at least twice a day.
:::*I can't see who did this or not; please confirm it manually to me by telling 'Gryllida, I subscribed to the 'assistance' water cooler.
:::Please propose some other actions if you think they could help. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 02:19, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
::::I support exploring ways to update or change the review process and I agree with taking quick and decisive action in accordance with [[WN:IAR]].

::::I think we should start the conversation by listing what are the minimum components of the current review system we must keep. The top of that list must be verifiability with neutrality immediately after. If we ''willingly'' start publishing articles that are not at least verifiable, or are blatantly one-sided, then we've destroyed the project and created a source for mis/disinformation.

::::I do not believe the 5Ws are the core of what we should protect. But maybe I'm still not fully understanding what you are suggesting. —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]) 14:21, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

== main page does not show newest articles to logged out users ==

Hi,

I opened [https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Main_Page main page] in an Incognito window and the latest story it shows is about resignation of a public officer in Germany, which is from last week. I logged in and it shows recently published articles correctly. I then waited an hour or couple and tried again in Incognito window: '''the result is still the same'''. :-( What is the cause and how can this be resolved?

The lead needs to be updated. I cannot handle editing more than one page at a time, and if someone else could please assist, it would be greatly appreciated.

Regards, [[File:Smiley.svg|20px]] [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 05:51, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

:My guess is changes to the five lead templates needed sighted.
:I am unable to reproduce the problem at the moment though. Is it still a problem on your end? —[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ([[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]/[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]) 16:55, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
::I also see identical results logged in and logged out. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (ko'''a'''vf)]]❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯ 17:04, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

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