User talk:ARBN19
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[edit]I'm going to go on a limb here and state that I believe that you have good intentions with your edits. However, why for the love of all that is good in the world, do you believe that inflection tables belong under derived terms? Makes no sense whatsoever. --Robbie SWE (talk) 20:05, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
Links inside example sentences
[edit]I've seen that you've added wikilinks to a lot of Azeri entries. Thanks for doing the formatting work, but I think the policy on this one is very clear:
Generally, every definition should be accompanied by a quotation illustrating the definition. If no quotation can be found, it is strongly encouraged to create an example sentence. Example sentences should:
[...] not contain wikilinks (the words should be easy enough to understand without additional lookup)
New conjugation templates
[edit]It looks like you've done great job with these Azerbaijani templates. I just wonder, what exactly did you change? Is it that instead of many templates there is only one now? Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 09:18, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
Pages to be deleted
[edit]Are there really 200 Azerbaijani pages that need to be deleted? I searched at random for a few verb forms of чалышмаг and gözləmək on Google Books and they seem perfectly attestable. Or are you placing the deletion template over just the conjugation table? Ultimateria (talk) 13:42, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
- It's just the conjugation templates he must mean. Please don't delete every Azerbaijani verb out there. Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 15:27, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
- Okay, in that case please remove the deletion templates from the entries. I can delete the unused templates. Ultimateria (talk) 18:26, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
- Actually, if I deleted Template:az-latin-verb-conj, what would replace it? Ultimateria (talk) 18:30, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
- I thought this was the one that ARBN19 created recently, and that their idea with it was to replace all the other different templates with a single one. But I don't know exactly, maybe it was an attempt that ARBN19 wasn't happy with, so they requested its deletion; it's not easy to know, especially because ARBN19 does'nt seem to like communication. Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 21:31, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
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Arabic broken plural in Azerbaijani
[edit]... is simply never used other than in very old texts. No word form that you may come across that is etymologically a broken plural of an Arabic noun is perceived as a plural of the respective noun in singular in Azerbaijani, but as a separate noun, with a slightly different meaning and with its own regular plural form. Thus, əşya is not a plural of şey in Azerbaijani, and əmlak is not a plural form of mülk. They do have their own regular plurals, such as əşyalar and əmlaklar. Also, please don't create any Arabic-script lemmas... Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 10:41, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
- OKay, what I said above doesn't apply to Classical Azerbaijani, which is exactly very old texts! So please don't remove broken plurals in those entries! Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 12:19, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
- 1) Please use
{{az-noun}}where possible, for example if you think it should have a normal plural, for example{{az-noun|i|lər}}. Most of the times, it is self-evident and easy to guess what the definite accusative vowel and the plural suffix should be. If you don't think it should have a plural, then keep using{{head|az|noun}}2) Please don't insert empty reference headers. 3) Please use{{bor|az|ar|TERM}}and not{{der}}for Arabic loans. 4) If possible, please try to check the correctness of the definition of an Arabic loan word, it is very often not the same in Azerbaijani. Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 16:10, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
- 1) Please use
Hi again
[edit]Can you maybe take a look at this one, see if you can fix it? I know you have some required skills. Thanks in advance. Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 18:24, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
- Good job expanding the template! Great effort, really. Just two things: First, I think having references inside the template is not a good idea. Second, the imperative forms for 2 person are still wrong. For instance, for olmaq it should be ol for 2SG and olun for 2PL, not anything else. Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 12:04, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
- Lovely. Thank you. Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 08:17, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
- One last thing, though: Future-in-the-past indefinite negative forms are wrong (except for the 3 person). The correct forms are (exemplified by olmaq) olmazdım, olmazdın, olmazdıq, olmazdınız Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 09:26, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
- Lovely. Thank you. Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 08:17, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
Suffix format
[edit]Hi, we always show the full lemma form of the word when showing the morphology in the etymology, we never show only the stem. It is assumed that the stem of the word is used for affixation, so this does not need to be specified separately. Compare dövüş. Also note that the entry is actually categorised as being suffixed with -iş. One vowel harmony form is chosen as the main form, and all words are grouped together under that. The different vowel harmony forms are not separate suffixes after all, they are just different allomorphs of the same suffix. This should be done for Azerbaijani as well. —Rua (mew) 11:03, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
See WT:RFC#Category:Azerbaijani words by suffix. —Rua (mew) 11:17, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
Non-subject participle
[edit]Hello, I like the new Azerbaijani verb template. It includes almost everything now. To make it even more perfect, I have a suggestion. The non-subject participle -DIK which is references to in the paper never occurs in its bare form, only inflected for person and number. Therefore, I suggest that this row in the template be expanded to include all persons and numbers. Thus,
verb– SG: 1SG, 2SG, 3SG; PL: 1PL, 2PL, 3PL
olmaq – SG: olduğum, olduğun, olduğu; PL: olduğumuz, olduğunuz, olduqları
qorxutmaq – SG: qorxuduğum, qorxuduğun, qorxuduğu; PL: qorxuduğumuz, qorxuduğunuz, qorxuduqları
oxumaq – SG: oxuduğum, oxuduğun, oxuduğu; PL: oxuduğumuz, oxuduğunuz, oxuduqları
görmək – SG: gördüyüm, gördüyün, gördüyü; PL: gördüyümüz, gördüyünüz, gördükləri
böyütmək – SG: böyüdüyüm, böyüdüyün, böyüdüyü; PL: böyüdüyümüz, böyüdüyünüz, böyüdükləri
üşümək– SG: üşüdüyüm, üşüdüyün, üşüdüyü; PL: üşüdüyümüz, üşüdüyünüz, üşüdükləri
almaq – SG: aldığım, aldığın, aldığı; PL: aldığımız, aldığınız, aldıqları
sarsıtmaq – SG: sarsıdığım, sarsıdığın, sarsıdığı; PL: sarsıdığımız, sarsıdığınız, sarsıdıqları
anlamaq– SG: anladığım, anladığın, anladığı; PL: anladığımız, anladığınız, anladıqları
vermək – SG: verdiyim, verdiyin, verdiyi; PL: verdiyimiz, verdiyiniz, verdikləri
etmək – SG: etdiyim, etdiyin, etdiyi; PL: etdiyimiz, etdiyiniz, etdikləri
demək – SG: dediyim, dediyin, dediyi; PL: dediyimiz, dediyiniz, dedikləri
çatmaq – SG: çatdığım, çatdığın, çatdığı; PL: çatdığımız, çatdığınız, çatdıqları
What do you think? Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 11:08, 28 October 2018 (UTC)