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Papio anubis (Olive baboon) female with juvenile on her back

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Nominated by:
Charles (talk) on 2015-04-19 20:46 (UTC)
Scope:
Papio anubis (Olive baboon) carrying baby on its back
Used in:
Papio anubis Wikipedia Papio anubis
Reason:
  • Unique image on Commons of Olive baboon carrying baby on its back -- Charles (talk)
  • There are three --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 05:27, 20 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Support Good choice --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 05:27, 20 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Result: 1 support, 0 oppose =>
    promoted. Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 04:58, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
    [reply]
    Scores: 
    1. Baby baboon on back.jpg: 0 (current VI within same scope) <--
    2. Olive baboon (Papio anubis) with juvenile.jpg: +2
    =>
    File:Baby baboon on back.jpg: Declined and demoted to VI-former. <--
    File:Olive baboon (Papio anubis) with juvenile.jpg: Promoted.
    --DeFacto (talk). 21:03, 1 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    
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    Nominated by:
    Charles (talk) on 2017-01-04 11:45 (UTC)
    Scope:
    Papio anubis (Olive baboon) female with juvenile on her back

      Comment Baby baboon on back.jpg Is already promoted. I know the author is a very good photographer!--Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 18:09, 4 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    This other one is a baby, this one is a much older juvenile, that's why I nominated it, but can go to MVR if everyone agrees. Charles (talk) 11:22, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    •   Comment - Is there a way to more clearly differentiate the scopes of the different photos? The other one was promoted in the scope "Papio anubis (Olive baboon) carrying young on its back", which is the same scope as this one. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 16:29, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    • No idea. I would like to change the existing one from young to baby, but don't know how to do that. Charles (talk)
    Result: 0 support, 0 oppose =>
    undecided. Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 06:06, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
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    •   Comment - Yes, this is clearly a better photo, but why can't we distinguish the scopes, given that in this case, it's a juvenile on its mother's back, whereas in the other one, it's a baby? I think both photos are clearly useful and distinct in scope. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 20:57, 12 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    •   Comment - My reading of that leads me to the opposite conclusion. Substitute "baby" and "juvenile" in this sentence: "If male and female of the same species can be distinguished from each other from a picture, then a "male" scope and a "female" scope can be proposed for the same species." -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 19:08, 19 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    •   Question - Does anyone else have an opinion, or will this just remain unchanged? There's agreement that this is the better of the two photos, but there's disagreement about whether to have a distinct scope for an infant vs. a juvenile. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 12:19, 26 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    •   Comment The MVR rules accepts an MVR for two or more images that have "essentially the same scope", not "exactly ...". This tells me that the appropriate scope for the image which becomes a VI, should be the scope attached to it when it was nominated - in this case, the wording wth the word "juvenile". Martinvl (talk) 14:29, 31 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    • Thanks for explaining, but I can't agree with you that scopes should be set in stone. That actually strikes me as inflexible for the sake of inflexibility. Suppose someone successfully nominated a photo for best of scope in Category:Chicken, and then another person decided to nominate a rooster and a chick? Should they be stuck not being able to have successful nominees because the original nominee, which was a hen, won in the broader scope of chicken? Why not, in that case, move the first VI to Category:Hen? -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 11:43, 1 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Scores: 
    1. Baby baboon on back.jpg: 0 (current VI within same scope)
    2. Olive baboon (Papio anubis) with juvenile.jpg: +2 <--
    =>
    File:Baby baboon on back.jpg: Declined and demoted to VI-former.
    File:Olive baboon (Papio anubis) with juvenile.jpg: Promoted. <--
    --DeFacto (talk). 21:01, 1 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    
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    Nominated by:
    ~ Moheen (talk) on 2017-01-28 10:04 (UTC)
    Scope:
    Els Moors
    Used in:
    See Global Usage
    Scores: 
    1. Els Moors 2016 02.jpg: -1 <--
    2. Els Moors 2016 01.jpg: +2 
    =>
    File:Els Moors 2016 02.jpg: Declined. <--
    File:Els Moors 2016 01.jpg: Promoted.
    --DeFacto (talk). 18:17, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    
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    Nominated by:
    ~ Moheen (talk) on 2017-01-29 07:46 (UTC)
    Scope:
    Els Moors
    Used in:
    See Global Usage
    Scores: 
    1. Els Moors 2016 02.jpg: -1
    2. Els Moors 2016 01.jpg: +2 <--
    =>
    File:Els Moors 2016 02.jpg: Declined.
    File:Els Moors 2016 01.jpg: Promoted. <--
    --DeFacto (talk). 18:18, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    
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    Nominated by:
    Slaunger (talk) on 2017-02-03 20:13 (UTC)
    Scope:
    Amsterdam Central station facade, Netherlands
    Used in:
    Absolute nowhere. I will await the VI verdict on this MVR before I start using it anywhere :-)
    Reason:
    I believe this image is superior to the existing VI as it is taken at a futher distance showing a larger entirety of the facade and with much less geometry distortions. Moreover, this is a high resolution 50 Mpixel panorama taken in excellent light. -- Slaunger (talk)
    Scores:
    1. Commons:Valued image candidates/Amsterdam Centraal 2016-09-13.jpg: +2 <--
    2. Commons:Valued image candidates/Amsterdam (NL), Centraal Station -- 2015 -- 7269.jpg: -1 (current VI within same scope)
    =>
    File:Amsterdam Centraal 2016-09-13.jpg: Promoted. <--
    File:Amsterdam (NL), Centraal Station -- 2015 -- 7269.jpg: Declined and demoted to VI-former
     -- Slaunger (talk) 19:21, 13 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    
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    Nominated by:
    Slaunger (talk) on 2017-02-03 20:18 (UTC)
    Scope:
    Amsterdam Central station facade, Netherlands

    Previous reviews

    Scores:
    1. Commons:Valued image candidates/Amsterdam Centraal 2016-09-13.jpg: +2
    2. Commons:Valued image candidates/Amsterdam (NL), Centraal Station -- 2015 -- 7269.jpg: -1 (current VI within same scope) <--
    =>
    File:Amsterdam Centraal 2016-09-13.jpg: Promoted.
    File:Amsterdam (NL), Centraal Station -- 2015 -- 7269.jpg: Declined and demoted to VI-former <--
     -- Slaunger (talk) 19:22, 13 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    
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    Ted Danson

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    Nominated by:
    George Ho (talk) on 2017-02-14 10:22 (UTC)
    Scope:
    Ted Danson
    Used in:
    w:Ted Danson
    Reason:
    Kinda more recent, but at least this image is decent. -- George Ho (talk)
    Scores: 
    1. Ted Danson 2008 number 2.jpg: +2
    2. Ted Danson.jpg: -1 
    =>
    File:Ted Danson 2008 number 2.jpg: Promoted.
    File:Ted Danson.jpg: Declined.
    --Yann (talk) 19:42, 24 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    
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    Nominated by:
    George Ho (talk) on 2017-02-14 10:19 (UTC)
    Scope:
    Ted Danson
    Used in:
    w:Ted Danson
    Reason:
    This photo was taken at the 1990 Emmy Awards pre-ceremony carpet. One of historical images. -- George Ho (talk)
    Scores: 
    1. Ted Danson 2008 number 2.jpg: +2
    2. Ted Danson.jpg: -1 
    =>
    File:Ted Danson 2008 number 2.jpg: Promoted.
    File:Ted Danson.jpg: Declined.
    --Yann (talk) 19:42, 24 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    
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    Cloris Leachman

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    Nominated by:
    George Ho (talk) on 2017-02-14 11:15 (UTC)
    Scope:
    Cloris Leachman
    Used in:
    fr:Cloris Leachman
    Reason:
    She has a good ponytail hairstyle and good pose. -- George Ho (talk)

    Scores:

    1. Cloris Leachman 1970.JPG: +2
    2. Cloris Leachman Phyllis 1974.JPG: -1 (current VI within same scope)
    =>
    File:Cloris Leachman 1970.JPG: Promoted.
    File:Cloris Leachman Phyllis 1974.JPG: Declined and demoted to VI-former.
    --Yann (talk) 19:51, 24 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    
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    Nominated by:
    George Ho (talk) on 2017-02-14 18:26 (UTC)
    Scope:
    Cloris Leachman
    Reason:
    Although greyscale, she looked younger in this photo -- George Ho (talk)
    Scores: 
    1. ClorisLeachmanJune09.jpg: +0
    2. Cloris Leachman Phyllis 1974.JPG: +1 
    =>
    File:ClorisLeachmanJune09.jpg: Declined.
    File:Cloris Leachman Phyllis 1974.JPG: Promoted.
    --MrPanyGoff 08:41, 23 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    

    Scores:

    1. Cloris Leachman 1970.JPG: +2
    2. Cloris Leachman Phyllis 1974.JPG: -1 (current VI within same scope)
    =>
    File:Cloris Leachman 1970.JPG: Promoted.
    File:Cloris Leachman Phyllis 1974.JPG: Declined and demoted to VI-former.
    --Yann (talk) 19:51, 24 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    
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    Che Guevara Mausoleum from west-east view

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    Nominated by:
    ~ Moheen (talk) on 2016-05-06 07:14 (UTC)
    Scope:
    Che Guevara Mausoleum from west-east view
    Used in:
    See Global Usage

      Comment these types of technical issues @Ezarate: are not usually reason to oppose a VI nomination. Charles (talk) 15:11, 13 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

      Comment The perspective issues affect the VIC guideline #3: Must illustrate its subject well. The subject isn't well ilustrated. Thanks for your opinion Charles Ezarateesteban 15:43, 13 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Result: 1 support, 0 oppose =>
    promoted. Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 05:23, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
    [reply]
    Scores: 
    1. Che Guevara - Grab in Santa Clara, Kuba.jpg: -1 (current VI within same scope) <--
    2. Che Guevara Monument 2017.jpg: 0 
    =>
    File:Che Guevara - Grab in Santa Clara, Kuba.jpg: Undecided continues as current VI. <--
    File:Che Guevara Monument 2017.jpg: Undecided.
    --DeFacto (talk). 17:57, 25 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    
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    Nominated by:
    Kaldari (talk) on 2017-02-03 03:16 (UTC)
    Scope:
    Che Guevara Mausoleum from west-east view
    Reason:
    Image shows more of the monument and is higher resolution. -- Kaldari (talk)

      Question What is "west-east view"? "view from west"? --Berthold Werner (talk) 14:31, 15 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Kaldari, Moheen, anyone have an answer? It's a good question. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 00:16, 17 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Scores: 
    1. Che Guevara - Grab in Santa Clara, Kuba.jpg: -1 (current VI within same scope)
    2. Che Guevara Monument 2017.jpg: 0 <--
    =>
    File:Che Guevara - Grab in Santa Clara, Kuba.jpg: Undecided continues as current VI.
    File:Che Guevara Monument 2017.jpg: Undecided. <--
    --DeFacto (talk). 18:01, 25 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    
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    Rupert Murdoch

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    Nominated by:
    George Ho (talk) on 2017-02-17 19:52 (UTC)
    Scope:
    Rupert Murdoch

      Support Best in scope --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 07:03, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Scores: 
    1. Rupert Murdoch - WEF Davos 2007.jpg: +0
    2. Murdoch at World Economic Forum 2009.jpg: +1 
    =>
    File:Rupert Murdoch - WEF Davos 2007.jpg: Declined.
    File:Murdoch at World Economic Forum 2009.jpg: Promoted.
    --MrPanyGoff 09:20, 10 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    
    Scores: 
    1. Murdoch at World Economic Forum 2009.jpg: +1 (current VI within same scope) <--
    2. Rupert Murdoch - Flickr - Eva Rinaldi Celebrity and Live Music Photographer.jpg: -1 
    =>
    File:Murdoch at World Economic Forum 2009.jpg: Promoted and so continues as current VI. <--
    File:Rupert Murdoch - Flickr - Eva Rinaldi Celebrity and Live Music Photographer.jpg: Declined.
    --DeFacto (talk). 18:20, 26 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    
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    Nominated by:
    George Ho (talk) on 2017-02-17 19:49 (UTC)
    Scope:
    Rupert Murdoch
    Reason:
    Back when I nominated another photo, I didn't consider this photo. However, I think this photo may have more value as it's more widely used. Also, it indicates that time passes by. -- George Ho (talk)
    Scores: 
    1. Murdoch at World Economic Forum 2009.jpg: +1 (current VI within same scope)
    2. Rupert Murdoch - Flickr - Eva Rinaldi Celebrity and Live Music Photographer.jpg: -1 <--
    =>
    File:Murdoch at World Economic Forum 2009.jpg: Promoted and so continues as current VI.
    File:Rupert Murdoch - Flickr - Eva Rinaldi Celebrity and Live Music Photographer.jpg: Declined. <--
    --DeFacto (talk). 18:22, 26 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    
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    Neil Patrick Harris

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    Nominated by:
    George Ho (talk) on 2017-02-20 09:54 (UTC)
    Scope:
    Neil Patrick Harris
    Scores: 
    1. 5.3.10NeilPatrickHarrisByDavidShankbone.jpg: +0
    2. Neil Patrick Harris 2008.jpg: +0 
    3. NeilPatrickHarrisHWOFSept2011.jpg: +0 
    =>
    File:5.3.10NeilPatrickHarrisByDavidShankbone.jpg: Undecided.
    File:Neil Patrick Harris 2008.jpg: Undecided.
    File:NeilPatrickHarrisHWOFSept2011.jpg: Undecided.
    --MrPanyGoff 08:01, 24 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    
    Scores: 
    1. NeilPatrickHarrisHWOFSept2011.jpg: 0 <--
    2. 5.3.10NeilPatrickHarrisByDavidShankbone.jpg: 0
    3. Neil Patrick Harris 2011 (cropped).jpg: 0
    4. Neil Patrick Harris (9446191273).jpg: 0
    =>
    File:NeilPatrickHarrisHWOFSept2011.jpg: Undecided. <--
    File:5.3.10NeilPatrickHarrisByDavidShankbone.jpg: Undecided.
    File:Neil Patrick Harris 2011 (cropped).jpg: Undecided.
    File:Neil Patrick Harris (9446191273).jpg: Undecided.
    --DeFacto (talk). 20:56, 27 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    
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    Nominated by:
    George Ho (talk) on 2017-02-20 10:03 (UTC)
    Scope:
    Neil Patrick Harris
    Scores: 
    1. 5.3.10NeilPatrickHarrisByDavidShankbone.jpg: +0
    2. Neil Patrick Harris 2008.jpg: +0 
    3. NeilPatrickHarrisHWOFSept2011.jpg: +0 
    =>
    File:5.3.10NeilPatrickHarrisByDavidShankbone.jpg: Undecided.
    File:Neil Patrick Harris 2008.jpg: Undecided.
    File:NeilPatrickHarrisHWOFSept2011.jpg: Undecided.
    --MrPanyGoff 08:02, 24 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    
    Scores: 
    1. NeilPatrickHarrisHWOFSept2011.jpg: 0
    2. 5.3.10NeilPatrickHarrisByDavidShankbone.jpg: 0 <--
    3. Neil Patrick Harris 2011 (cropped).jpg: 0
    4. Neil Patrick Harris (9446191273).jpg: 0
    =>
    File:NeilPatrickHarrisHWOFSept2011.jpg: Undecided.
    File:5.3.10NeilPatrickHarrisByDavidShankbone.jpg: Undecided. <--
    File:Neil Patrick Harris 2011 (cropped).jpg: Undecided.
    File:Neil Patrick Harris (9446191273).jpg: Undecided.
    --DeFacto (talk). 20:57, 27 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    
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    Nominated by:
    George Ho (talk) on 2017-02-20 09:52 (UTC)
    Scope:
    Neil Patrick Harris
    Reason:
    Cropped but much better than version of File:NeilPatrickHarrisHWOFSept2011.jpg, which was previously nominated as VI. -- George Ho (talk)

    Scores:

    1. NeilPatrickHarrisHWOFSept2011.jpg: 0
    2. 5.3.10NeilPatrickHarrisByDavidShankbone.jpg: 0
    3. Neil Patrick Harris 2011 (cropped).jpg: 0 <--
    4. Neil Patrick Harris (9446191273).jpg: 0
    =>
    File:NeilPatrickHarrisHWOFSept2011.jpg: Undecided.
    File:5.3.10NeilPatrickHarrisByDavidShankbone.jpg: Undecided.
    File:Neil Patrick Harris 2011 (cropped).jpg: Undecided. <--
    File:Neil Patrick Harris (9446191273).jpg: Undecided.
    --DeFacto (talk). 20:56, 27 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    
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    Nominated by:
    George Ho (talk) on 2017-02-20 09:30 (UTC)
    Scope:
    Neil Patrick Harris at the 2013 Comic Con
    Reason:
    Taken at 2013 Comic Con. Nice smile and pose. -- George Ho (talk)
    •   Question - Why are none of these pictures in Category:Neil Patrick Harris, and how are we supposed to figure out which picture is best in scope if we have to wade through a bunch of "Neil Patrick Harris by year" subcategories? It seems like this category has somehow gotten messed up, but I don't know how. It should be unmessed. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:16, 17 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Fixed it, Ikan. --George Ho (talk) 08:26, 17 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks a lot. Unfortunately, now I feel like there are so many photos, I can't look through all of them and decide which is best in scope. Should I restrict myself to judging just these three photos? -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:36, 17 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Hmm... shall I split three nominations into individually scoped nominations then? I'll split the scope into three yearly scopes. --George Ho (talk) 08:38, 17 February 2017 (UTC) Pinging Ikan. 08:42, 17 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    I tend not to think so. I don't think he will be recognizably different in consecutive years. Someone will probably take the time to look through all of the photos and determine to their satisfaction which is most useful. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 10:25, 17 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    You can, Ikan, either limit to just three photos or nominate the fourth photo yourself. There is File:Neil Patrick Harris - Streamy Awards 2009 (2).jpg, but it has too much lighting. --George Ho (talk) 18:39, 17 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    I reviewed other pictures, but they do not come close to the three. There are other Comic Con 2013 photos of this guy, but I would rather pick something less silly and more... how do you call it? --George Ho (talk) 18:42, 17 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    I think you can vote more than one photo of the same scope if you can. --George Ho (talk) 22:52, 17 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    @Ikan Kekek: I have an idea. What if I can narrow the scope of this nomination to just "Neil Patrick Harris at the 2013 Comic Con"? Would this work? --George Ho (talk) 09:10, 20 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Yes, I think you could. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:17, 20 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    I narrowed down the scope and then reset the nomination time. --George Ho (talk) 09:30, 20 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Also, Ikan, I split the nomination away from the "Most Valued review candidates" section and put it into another section. --George Ho (talk) 09:33, 20 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
      Comment Remember he was a noted child actor too. Charles (talk) 09:43, 20 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    • Alright, I actually looked through all the photos in this more limited category. It's pretty nearly a tossup between this photo and File:Neil Patrick Harris (9448294366).jpg. The positives pretty nearly cancel themselves out. The bit of a finger in this one could disconcert someone, perhaps, whereas in the other, his head is leaning to the side. I'll say what the hell and   Support. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:45, 20 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

      Oppose I don't think we want VIs of people at every location they've ever attended unless it was significant, in which case it should be in scope i.e. getting an Oscar; collecting an honour/medal; getting married etc. (was this?). See current MVR below. Charles (talk) 11:40, 20 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    @Charlesjsharp and Ikan Kekek: Somehow, the nomination was removed from the "New valued image nominations" section. I re-broadened the scope to reflect the removal and then reinserted the nomination back to MVR. --George Ho (talk) 19:25, 20 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Scores: 
    1. NeilPatrickHarrisHWOFSept2011.jpg: 0
    2. 5.3.10NeilPatrickHarrisByDavidShankbone.jpg: 0
    3. Neil Patrick Harris 2011 (cropped).jpg: 0
    4. Neil Patrick Harris (9446191273).jpg: 0 <--
    =>
    File:NeilPatrickHarrisHWOFSept2011.jpg: Undecided.
    File:5.3.10NeilPatrickHarrisByDavidShankbone.jpg: Undecided.
    File:Neil Patrick Harris 2011 (cropped).jpg: Undecided.
    File:Neil Patrick Harris (9446191273).jpg: Undecided. <--
    --DeFacto (talk). 20:56, 27 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    
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    Altscheid Wayside Cross (1801)

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    Nominated by:
    Palauenc05 (talk) on 2016-12-14 17:31 (UTC)
    Scope:
    Wayside cross (1801) in Altscheid, Germany.

      Support Useful --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 06:03, 15 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Result: 1 support, 0 oppose =>
    promoted. Palauenc05 (talk) 17:40, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
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    @Ikan Kekek: Hi, It is not the same object, we must respect the scope. --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 07:34, 22 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    I didn't realize it wasn't the same object. How can the difference be made clear in the scope? -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:01, 22 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    I think there is a slight misunderstanding about the purpose of MVR. We must choose, for the same scope, the best image, within the framework of an image that has already been labeled. Here it is. But you have proposed a 3rd image that has no link with the scope. That's what surprised me. --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 08:36, 22 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    No, I don't understand, because the file is in the linked category, Category:Cultural heritage monuments in Altscheid, and the words "Altscheid Wegekreuz" are in its filename. What do you mean by it having no link with the scope? Is it the same wayside cross or not? I guess not, but in that case, since it's also a wayside cross and apparently in Altscheid, there is either a problem with the clarity of the scope or File:Altscheid Wegekreuz 1694.jpg is in the wrong category. I suppose there are actually at least two wayside crosses in Altscheid? -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:45, 22 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    If you read the descriptions carefully and follow the links, you may find out that there are four wayside crosses in Altscheid. All of them are officially listed as historical monuments and thus each of them deserves a scope, although they are in the same category. --Palauenc05 (talk) 19:16, 22 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    OK, but the scopes have to be clearly distinguished somehow, don't they? -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 00:42, 23 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
      Question - Do we know the years of construction of all 4 wayside crosses in Altscheid? If so, that should be the distinguishing factor in the scope. But I think the point should be clarified. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:56, 24 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    What do you think, does the bracket (1801) in the above scope mean? As I said before, read the links and you can answer your question yourself about the other three. --Palauenc05 (talk) 22:25, 24 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    I obviously didn't get it at first.   Oppose on the basis that the other one, because it's in light, is somewhat more useful. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:39, 25 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Scores: 
    1. Altscheid Wegekreuz 1801.jpg: -1 (current VI within same scope) <--
    2. Altscheid Wegekreuz (1801).jpg: 2 
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    File:Altscheid Wegekreuz 1801.jpg: Declined and demoted to VI-former. <--
    File:Altscheid Wegekreuz (1801).jpg: Promoted.
    --DeFacto (talk). 18:58, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    
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    Nominated by:
    Palauenc05 (talk) on 2017-02-14 17:54 (UTC)
    Scope:
    Wayside cross (1801) in Altscheid, Germany.
    Reason:
    New shot, better lighting. -- Palauenc05 (talk)

      Best in Scope --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 07:35, 22 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Scores: 
    1. Altscheid Wegekreuz 1801.jpg: -1 (current VI within same scope)
    2. Altscheid Wegekreuz (1801).jpg: 2  <--
    =>
    File:Altscheid Wegekreuz 1801.jpg: Declined and demoted to VI-former.
    File:Altscheid Wegekreuz (1801).jpg: Promoted. <--
    --DeFacto (talk). 18:57, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    
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    Chanda Kochhar

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    Nominated by:
    Yann (talk) on 2017-02-19 20:25 (UTC)
    Scope:
    Chanda Kochhar, portrait photograph
    Reason:
    Indian banker and businesswoman, listed by Fortune, as one of the most powerful women in the world. -- Yann (talk)
    Scores: 
    1. Chanda Kochhar at the India Economic Summit 2009 cropped.jpg: -1 <--
    2. Chanda Kochhar - India Economic Summit 2011.jpg: 1
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    File:Chanda Kochhar at the India Economic Summit 2009 cropped.jpg: Declined. <--
    File:Chanda Kochhar - India Economic Summit 2011.jpg: Promoted.
    --DeFacto (talk). 19:04, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    
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    Nominated by:
    Yann (talk) on 2017-02-20 01:26 (UTC)
    Scope:
    Chanda Kochhar, portrait photograph
    Scores: 
    1. Chanda Kochhar at the India Economic Summit 2009 cropped.jpg: -1
    2. Chanda Kochhar - India Economic Summit 2011.jpg: 1 <--
    =>
    File:Chanda Kochhar at the India Economic Summit 2009 cropped.jpg: Declined.
    File:Chanda Kochhar - India Economic Summit 2011.jpg: Promoted. <--
    --DeFacto (talk). 19:05, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    
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