Thread: Civ 5

It's similar to the Apostolic Palace and UN from Civ 4

Originally Posted by General Maximus

What is that 'world congress' you had mentioned, existenz? Is it a new feature, with something resembling United Nations?

Once printing press is researched, and one civ has meeted all the others, the world congress will take place. Its every 30 turns, but that shortens in later era's. two civs (the host and the one with the most delegates) can propose resolutions. Like sponsoring culture (more culture GP, but less engineers and scientists), embargoes, etc...So it makes the diplomacy more important. Although i have to figure out how the delegates work. I know the forbidden palace gives two

Now in my second try, i have pissed of arabia hugely with my proposals, cause they want world religion. And meanwhile indonesia and siam are annoyd because i spread my religion to them.

Originally Posted by Sir Adrian

It's similar to the Apostolic Palace and UN from Civ 4

Never played Civ 4, started with Civ 5.

Originally Posted by eXistenZ

Once printing press is researched, and one civ has meeted all the others, the world congress will take place. Its every 30 turns, but that shortens in later era's. two civs (the host and the one with the most delegates) can propose resolutions. Like sponsoring culture (more culture GP, but less engineers and scientists), embargoes, etc...So it makes the diplomacy more important. Although i have to figure out how the delegates work. I know the forbidden palace gives two

Now in my second try, i have pissed of arabia hugely with my proposals, cause they want world religion. And meanwhile indonesia and siam are annoyd because i spread my religion to them.

Does this mean, the congress members get the right to freely police the whole world diplomatically?

Got Civ 4 for free.

Due to an error on Valve, they had BNW for 75%, as a mistake.

They apologize and for people who preorder or bought it early, will get Civ 4 for free.

But of course, stupid dickheads still want and moan on how they feel cheated.

So what?

You should had waited some time then(If you had done so.)

I mean FFS, they said sorry for the error and give people a free game.

I preorder it, and I have no regret.

Civ 4, with all it's expansions and DLCs? Or just the base game?

I'd feel tempted if it was complete. Just like the Europa Universalis III complete edition I got for free during an offer.

Originally Posted by Facupay

The worst start EVER. Almost no forest to take advantage of the Celts religious bonus, no way to get away from this islands until caravels and very few resources (2 ivory and 1 furs). I'm sending a settler to the southern frozen islands which has 1 crabs and that'll be the extent of the celtic empire for centuries. Quebec has Dyes and Valetta incense and that's it. I could conquer them but the trade routes with them are the only thing keeping me afloat and they are also of my religion so they are pretty easy to befriend. I'm playing at emperor so I'm just waiting for the other civs to come and rape me in some time.

It's the first time I simply can't expand because there is no way to get out. I'm playing this to see for how long I can survive.

That's what I did. Gave up when I reached the mainland and Russia owned half the continent. Tried to settle. Russia attacked me. Ragequit. 4000 years stuck on an island and fark.

Where's BNW cheapest?

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Originally Posted by General Maximus

Does this mean, the congress members get the right to freely police the whole world diplomatically?

Check this page to see all the resolutions they can propose.

http://www.civilopedia.info/civilope...TION_HOME.aspx

The idea is actually quite good. for the moment im in the balance with arabia: trying to blck their proposals while enforcing mine. First they wanted islam as world religion, then they wanted to ban sugar (which i agreed), now they wantt to embargo all CS, which is offcours quite bad for me since i own the most.
It adds a lot of diplomatic play earlier in the game, although the civs still act sometimes shizofrenic. Sometimes an explanation why they vote a particular way would be nice. Like i proposed natural heritgal sites (to not offend anyone), since i had a natural wonder in my borders. yet other civs who would have benefitted from it voted no

Originally Posted by Genius of the Restoration

Where's BNW cheapest?

Probably steam the day before yesterday. Dont think you'll see -33% anywhere soon.

Originally Posted by Arbitrary Crusader

Got Civ 4 for free.

Due to an error on Valve, they had BNW for 75%, as a mistake.

They apologize and for people who preorder or bought it early, will get Civ 4 for free.

But of course, stupid dickheads still want and moan on how they feel cheated.

But I already said that...

Originally Posted by Arbitrary Crusader

So what?

You should had waited some time then(If you had done so.)

I mean FFS, they said sorry for the error and give people a free game.

I preorder it, and I have no regret.

I figured it was an error. I managed to find a friend who was interested who hadn't pre-ordered and tell him about it, so he got the discount. Also explains the random Civ IV copy I now have...

Originally Posted by eXistenZ

Check this page to see all the resolutions they can propose.

http://www.civilopedia.info/civilope...TION_HOME.aspx

The idea is actually quite good. for the moment im in the balance with arabia: trying to blck their proposals while enforcing mine. First they wanted islam as world religion, then they wanted to ban sugar (which i agreed), now they wantt to embargo all CS, which is offcours quite bad for me since i own the most.
It adds a lot of diplomatic play earlier in the game, although the civs still act sometimes shizofrenic. Sometimes an explanation why they vote a particular way would be nice. Like i proposed natural heritgal sites (to not offend anyone), since i had a natural wonder in my borders. yet other civs who would have benefitted from it voted no



Probably steam the day before yesterday. Dont think you'll see -33% anywhere soon.

Ah, thanks for the link. It seems to be a well enough feature. Does it come only with Brave New World?

Played a Venetian game as my first BNW game on an Archipeligo map (Prince). Trade routes seem fairly overpowered to me. Granted I get twice as many as anyone else, but I was raking in huge amounts of gold per turn the entire game because of them. I was getting so much gold that all I ever did with Venice (the only city I ever had control over, since all my other cities were puppets) was build wonders and archaeologists (the latter can't be bought with gold), since I was able to simply buy any building upgrades or units I needed. I've never been rich enough to do it that drastically before. The puppets thing wasn't even that bad when I could use my massive wealth to force the construction of important buildings (such as factories and science buildings) in all my puppets, even though I couldn't control them directly.

Won on turn 340 with a cultural victory. I had everyone but the Mayans at influential, who then denounced me and stopped my open borders, meaning my plan of spamming musicians in their lands wasn't going to cut it. Instead of waiting the 50 turns it would've taken to convert them conventionally, I simply took a massive fleet of battleships against them. I don't know what was up with the AI, but their best unit I saw was a single rifleman who was bordering a city on a 2-tile island, who got blown to bits. Other than that they simply had crossbowman and swordsman..... heck even a warrior. I think the AI is just terrible on Archipelago.

Still, most of the new features are great. Trade routes are cool, the new congress system is great, ideologies are much better and the whole method of achieving a culture victory is a lot more entertaining than before.

Originally Posted by General Maximus

Ah, thanks for the link. It seems to be a well enough feature. Does it come only with Brave New World?

yep, just like trade routes and ideologies.


Just finished my first brazil game on prince, continents. By blocking a siam settler i could have 2/3 of the continent for myself, with big cities.

So what ive learned:
-dont connect your cities too soon or you will go in the red.
-dont dig too much after artefacts, cause they are petty stuff. Some are good, but if you do it too much, you'll run out of exhibition space. this makes the explorers tree finisher redundant. Because i had so little place to store great works, i couldnt really get into the swaping stuff. Would be nice if you could sell artefacts though
-AI seems to be calmed. Most major wars took place way later in the game. Shaka had a bunch of units, but mainly seems to use them at CS.
-trade routes mainly braked even in non-monetary effects (science and religion)
- World congress is intereisting, although like said, motivation for the decisions would be nice.
-Cant really say anything on Tourism. Because i was Brazil, i had no negative effects from it (won culture victory), but no civ switched their ideology. there was one zulu city that became arabian

ow yes, and endgame turns took longer than i remembered on a standard map

Originally Posted by General Maximus

Civ 4, with all it's expansions and DLCs? Or just the base game?

Base game

Originally Posted by Ciciro

But I already said that...

NO YOU DIDNT!

Originally Posted by eXistenZ

Probably steam the day before yesterday. Dont think you'll see -33% anywhere soon.

It was 33% because of an error on Valve during a flash sale.

Man, Brazil's war theme is one of the best war theme in Civ V.

So, what was your favorite music from BNW?

Here Brazil's war theme.


And here the playlist for both peace and war theme for the BNW civs.
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list...8GVug8Jr4vwjoE


Edit: Forgot I didn't click edit on my previous post.

Hmm, I downloaded BNW but haven't played it yet. I've been continuing my previous russian campaign where i've reached the industrial era on Prince Difficulty.

I am surrounded by two nations: one strong, and a weaker nation. Most nations in the map (6 or 7 out of 9) either hate me or distrust me lol. I can't leave my current game unfinished, especially when i've built up a considerable army and a strong economy; so i'll play BNW after i finish up my russian campaign.

Originally Posted by Diren91

hows the new expansion

It's interesting. I have both expansions.

Playing at Prince the AI seems to be less aggressive towards me (mainly playing against the new factions) but at the start of each game I've played there are a lot of barbarians to keep me busy.

In my last game as the Zulus I tried to get the world congress to put a trade embargo on the Moroccans (with whom I was at war) but they made a counter proposal to have a trade embargo against me which was accepted. So, I can only trade with the city-states (which are all on islands). While this may not be as profitable as trading with other countries it's OK - it means my standing with the city states is quite high which improves the number of delegates to the world congress (I still could not get the trade embargo lifted).

Good to see that roads actually have a use now. If I am right, trade routes aren't a new feature, they commence as soon as you build a road from one city to other, no?