I also agree with dropping that part of the definition. The rest is good. -Paul
--- Paul Anderson, VP of Engineering, GrammaTech, Inc. 531 Esty St., Ithaca, NY 14850 Tel: +1 607 273-7340 x118; https://www.grammatech.com<https://www.grammatech.com/> From: Schweiger, Andreas Dr. <andreas.schwei...@airbus.com> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2022 7:58 AM To: CWE Research Discussion <cwe-research-list@mitre.org> Subject: [External] - RE: CWE/CAPEC Definitions CAUTION: External Email Dear all, dropping the mentioned part of the sentence is a very good idea. Apart from that I am fine with all three definitions. Best wishes Andreas Dr. rer. nat. Andreas Schweiger, Dipl.-Inf. (Univ.) 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From: James Pangburn [mailto:jpangb...@cadence.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 10:49 PM To: Joe Baum <joe.b...@motorolasolutions.com<mailto:joe.b...@motorolasolutions.com>>; Kurt Seifried <k...@seifried.org<mailto:k...@seifried.org>> Cc: SJ Jazz <sjoeja...@gmail.com<mailto:sjoeja...@gmail.com>>; Alec J Summers <asumm...@mitre.org<mailto:asumm...@mitre.org>>; CWE Research Discussion <cwe-research-list@mitre.org<mailto:cwe-research-list@mitre.org>> Subject: RE: CWE/CAPEC Definitions I also vote to drop "in a range of ..." Best regards, Jim Pangburn Director, IPG Operations From: Joe Baum <joe.b...@motorolasolutions.com<mailto:joe.b...@motorolasolutions.com>> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 1:21 PM To: Kurt Seifried <k...@seifried.org<mailto:k...@seifried.org>> Cc: SJ Jazz <sjoeja...@gmail.com<mailto:sjoeja...@gmail.com>>; Alec J Summers <asumm...@mitre.org<mailto:asumm...@mitre.org>>; CWE Research Discussion <cwe-research-list@mitre.org<mailto:cwe-research-list@mitre.org>> Subject: Re: CWE/CAPEC Definitions EXTERNAL MAIL Or for that matter non-vendors. Software composition, as an example, Open Source, etc. Best Regards, Joe Baum Director, Threat Management Group On Wed, Jul 13, 2022 at 3:18 PM Kurt Seifried <k...@seifried.org<mailto:k...@seifried.org>> wrote: Also, it excludes services. So yeah, I vote drop the " in a range of products made by different vendors" On Wed, Jul 13, 2022 at 2:12 PM SJ Jazz <sjoeja...@gmail.com<mailto:sjoeja...@gmail.com>> wrote: I still recommend deleting at the end of the definition of weakness "... in a range of products made by different vendors. It adds no value, and actually unintentionally limits applicability by implying weaknesses only apply to products made by vendors. Regards, Joe On Wed, Jul 13, 2022, 12:08 Alec J Summers <asumm...@mitre.org<mailto:asumm...@mitre.org>> wrote: Dear CWE Research Community, I hope this email finds you well. Over the past few months, the CWE/CAPEC User Experience Working Group has been working to modernize our programs through a variety of activities. One such activity is harmonizing the definitions on our sites for some of our key terminology including weakness, vulnerability, and attack pattern. As CWE and CAPEC were developed separately and on a different timeline, some of the terms are not defined similarly, and we want to address that. We are seeking feedback on our working definitions: Vulnerability A flaw in a software, firmware, hardware, or service component resulting from a weakness that can be exploited, causing a negative impact to the confidentiality, integrity, or availability of an impacted component or components (from CVE®) Weakness A type of flaw or defect inserted during a product lifecycle that, under the right conditions, could contribute to the introduction of vulnerabilities in a range of products made by different vendors Attack Pattern The common approach and attributes related to the exploitation of a weakness, usually in cyber-enabled capabilities Note: CVE's definition for 'vulnerability' was agreed upon after significant community deliberation, and we are not looking to change it at this time. We are hoping to publish new, improved definitions on our websites at the end of the month. Please provide thoughts and comments by Tuesday, July 26. Cheers, Alec -- Alec J. 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