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Forever Amber

  • 1947
  • (Banned)
  • 2h 18m
ÉVALUATION IMDb
6,5/10
1,9 k
MA NOTE
Forever Amber (1947)
AdventureDramaRomance

Dans l'Angleterre du dix-septième siècle, une fille de la campagne, Amber St. Clair, a pour ambition de s'élever au niveau de la noblesse et y parvient, mais ce faisant, perd son véritable a... Tout lireDans l'Angleterre du dix-septième siècle, une fille de la campagne, Amber St. Clair, a pour ambition de s'élever au niveau de la noblesse et y parvient, mais ce faisant, perd son véritable amour.Dans l'Angleterre du dix-septième siècle, une fille de la campagne, Amber St. Clair, a pour ambition de s'élever au niveau de la noblesse et y parvient, mais ce faisant, perd son véritable amour.

  • Directors
    • Otto Preminger
    • John M. Stahl
  • Writers
    • Philip Dunne
    • Ring Lardner Jr.
    • Jerome Cady
  • Stars
    • Linda Darnell
    • Cornel Wilde
    • Richard Greene
  • Voir l’information sur la production à IMDbPro
  • ÉVALUATION IMDb
    6,5/10
    1,9 k
    MA NOTE
    • Directors
      • Otto Preminger
      • John M. Stahl
    • Writers
      • Philip Dunne
      • Ring Lardner Jr.
      • Jerome Cady
    • Stars
      • Linda Darnell
      • Cornel Wilde
      • Richard Greene
    • 38Commentaires d'utilisateurs
    • 23Commentaires de critiques
  • Voir l’information sur la production à IMDbPro
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      • 3 victoires et 1 nomination au total

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    Linda Darnell
    Linda Darnell
    • Amber St. Clair
    Cornel Wilde
    Cornel Wilde
    • Bruce Carlton
    Richard Greene
    Richard Greene
    • Lord Harry Almsbury
    George Sanders
    George Sanders
    • King Charles II
    Glenn Langan
    Glenn Langan
    • Capt. Rex Morgan
    Richard Haydn
    Richard Haydn
    • Earl of Radcliffe
    Jessica Tandy
    Jessica Tandy
    • Nan Britton
    Anne Revere
    Anne Revere
    • Mother Red Cap
    John Russell
    John Russell
    • Black Jack Mallard
    Jane Ball
    • Corinne Carlton
    Robert Coote
    Robert Coote
    • Sir Thomas Dudley
    Leo G. Carroll
    Leo G. Carroll
    • Matt Goodgroome
    Natalie Draper
    Natalie Draper
    • Countess of Castlemaine
    Margaret Wycherly
    Margaret Wycherly
    • Mrs. Spong
    Alma Kruger
    Alma Kruger
    • Lady Redmond
    Edmund Breon
    Edmund Breon
    • Lord Redmond
    • (as Edmond Breon)
    Alan Napier
    Alan Napier
    • Landale
    Margot Grahame
    Margot Grahame
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    • Directors
      • Otto Preminger
      • John M. Stahl
    • Writers
      • Philip Dunne
      • Ring Lardner Jr.
      • Jerome Cady
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    Commentaires des utilisateurs38

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    6planktonrules

    A post-code version of a pre-code script

    The novel "Forever Amber" was wildly popular after debuting in 1944. But it also was banned in 16 states as well as abroad! Why? Because it was essentially a historical where the leading lady, Amber, sleeps her way from obscurity to the mistress of some of the most important men in the land. Today, it would be seen as somewhat tame...but in the 1940s it caused a sensation.

    Now this brings up a serious problem In the Hollywood of 1947, the Production Code made it virtually impossible to film the script unless huge changes were made in the story. Well, apparently Twentieth Century-Fox STILL didn't sanitize the story enough...and the Catholic Legion of Decency condemned the film. The movie was quickly withdrawn from theaters, scenes were re-shot and it returned to theaters....where it was wildly successful. Despite a huge price tag of $6,000,000, it went on to be the top grossing film of the year. I wonder how much of the Catholic Legion of Decency hubbub actually ended up HELPING the film!

    Linda Darnell stars as Amber St. Clair, a young girl from a good middleclass English family who lived during the Restoration period (when the monarchy was invited back to rule after the death of Cromwell in 1660). Amber is NOT a normal lady by any standard of the day and her family shocked when she not only refuses to marry the man they picked out for her but she then runs away to make her fortune. This essentially consists of sleeping her way up through the English gentry....with a brief period in which she slummed it with a highwayman. Throughout all her many affairs, she is most devoted to Bruce Carlton (Cornel Wilde)...though they never seem to connect up for long.

    When I watched the movie, I could tell some cuts had been made in a few places. One was odd, as she suddenly ended up pregnant...and you really weren't sure what happened there and it remained that way through much of the picture! Well, she obviously slept with a guy....but who? And, after the baby was born you don't hear any more about the baby until late in the story. Was the tike misplaced somewhere or perhaps taken by aliens and then returned? Who knows?!

    As far as the film goes, in many ways it's like a reworking of the Pre-Code film, "Red-Headed Woman"...in which Jean Harlow's character sleeps her way up through the social ranks. But of the two, "Red-Headed Woman" is the better film in many ways....mostly because it was much more open about the character's sexuality and the movie ended with the character receiving neither punishment nor learning a thing along the way! But with bowing to the Legion of Decency's demand for cuts, the film comes off as more episodic and confusing about Amber's sex life! Plus, let's be honest, the film is a lot less entertaining when it's less sleazy. As far as the production goes, it looks nice in rich Technicolor...but is also a tad stilted and dull after a while.
    gregcouture

    The Legion of Decency wanted to condemn this one!

    Back in the days when the Roman Catholic censorship body, the Legion of Decency, had an unwarranted share of influence over the major Hollywood studios and their product, Darryl F. Zanuck, head of production at 20th-Century Fox, found himself embroiled in plenty of hot water with the L. of D. militia over his plans to film Kathleen Winsor's wildly popular succes du scandale "Forever Amber." We can be grateful he braved the fulminations of the clerics and their cohorts and lavished class "A" production values on this entertaining spectacle. Of course the more salacious aspects of Miss Winsor's story are toned down and softened, but there's a rather bitterly astringent tone to the proceedings, nevertheless.

    The cast performs ably under the legendarily tyrranical Otto Preminger, whose direction of some sequences does seem a bit perfunctory. Linda Darnell is gorgeously gowned and lovingly photographed in three-strip Technicolor by Leon Shamroy, at his professional best. (I will agree that some scenes, especially at the beginning, seem a bit underlit, possibly due to an inferior VHS video transfer...I have never seen this on a big screen.) Miss Darnell holds her own against the likes of George Sanders, giving one of his wittiest performances as King Charles II, and her line readings, spoken in that delicious speaking voice of hers, ring true for the most part. The always reliable Richard Haydn, as the loathsome Earl of Radcliffe, convinces us that his grisly fate is well-deserved. And even the usually laconic Cornel Wilde convinces as a suitable object of Amber's steadfastly unrequited passion.

    Best of all David Raksin's score achieves near-operatic grandeur, lending a sensual sweep that underscores one of Twentieth's really memorable costumers. Alfred Newman, head of Twentieth's music department, masterfully conducted Raksin's music, back in the days when the major studios employed full-time orchestras of musicians whose talents rivalled the players of the best symphony orchestras of the day and, perhaps, even now. Of course the video's audio track doesn't do the musical score the justice it deserves and it may be that in the late Forties when this was made, only the Warner Brothers studio sound technicians achieved full sonority on the optical tracks on which were recorded the scores of Korngold and Steiner and the other masters who worked at that rival studio.
    MISSMARCH

    Women's Lib in Merry Olde England

    "You've done very well for yourself, Amber."

    With this line, Cornell Wilde's character shows himself a master of understatement. It is delivered coldly, with neither criticism nor respect.

    FOREVER AMBER is the portrait of a peasant girl who refused to be destroyed by her poverty and the hopeless prospects awaiting her. She used her sexuality and her brains to become the King's consort.

    This film presents a vivid portrait of life in England before the Cromwellian revolution. It was an amoral, extremely cynical, heartlessly cruel society.

    Linda Darnell's performance is a tour de force. She manages to play the strumpet, while letting the audience see her strength of character shining through all the while. Her love for the fickle Bruce Carlton/Cornell Wilde is too deep for him to ever understand.

    One of the most haunting episodes in classic films is the depiction of London in the grip of the Black Plague. Amber risks her life by staying at Bruce's side through his delirium and personally performing the surgery that saves him.

    Amber's tragedy is one that every woman who has ever had to fight for herself in this world can recognize. The movie is far more than a period soap opera. In fact, with David Raksin's incredible orchestral score, the production could have provided the framework for the composition of a real opera.... La Boheme, move over!
    6SnoopyStyle

    romance pulp

    It's 1644 and Civil War grips England. Baby Amber is found at the doorstep of a puritan family in the countryside. She is the product of a scandal from opposing sides of the war. It's 1660. Oliver Cromwell is dead and the monarchy is restored. Amber (Linda Darnell) refuses an arranged marriage and longs for a high class life. She uses her sex to social climb her way to the top. She follows a group of Royalist led by Lord Bruce Carlton (Cornel Wilde) and his friend Lord Almsbury to London. Her journey would take her to the court of King Charles II. Bruce gets her privateering ship. She gets pregnant and sent to debtors' prison where she joins highwayman Black Jack Mallard. They escape prison and go on their crime spree. Jack is killed and she is rescued by Captain Rex Morgan who introduced her to acting in the theater. That's where she reconnects with Lord Almsbury who is now married with a child. She continues to social climb as she pines for her true love Bruce.

    This is based on a period-piece romance novel. The name that caught my eye is director Otto Preminger. It's three years after his stylistic masterpiece Laura. It's the days of the powerful studio head and Zanuck had him under contract. He is given this prestige affair with a big budget. The material is rather scandalous at the time which Zanuck used with the expected censor opposition. It's nothing nowadays and this costume affair seems rather stiff. I don't know much about Linda Darnell. She seems to have a long and varied career with this as one of her highlights. She's beautiful and she's doing some broad acting. This is reminiscent of the style of Gone with The Wind except it is far inferior. It's rather pulpy where the sexual opportunism wears out its salacious welcome. It's compelling enough to watch but I don't find the ambitious Amber to be that appealing.
    7ldeangelis-75708

    Better Than The Book

    I tried reading Kathleen Windsor's famous novel but found it too long and full of excess baggage. It didn't capture my attention the way that other famous historical novel, "Gone with the Wind" did.

    And while I can't say I liked this film as much as GWTW, it was nevertheless very entertaining and held my interest the way the book couldn't. There was enough history, drama, romance and intrigue to make it worthwhile, without going overboard and getting bogged down with unnecessary detail and incidents.

    What was most interesting about Amber (Linda Darnell at her best) was how you can understand her motives without having to agree with them, like her unwillingness to give up on Bruce, who had more than one opportunity to make an "honest woman" of her but didn't want to take them. At times, she does what she has to do, at others, she chooses her options. Her ambitions and schemes never get her what she truly wants, despite her rise in social position and material wealth.

    Cornell Wilde gives a good performance as Bruce Carlton, the love of Amber's life, who prefers his freedom, at least where she's concerned.

    I also liked George Sanders as King Charles II, who falls for Amber's charms, yet won't be anyone's fool.

    Very entertaining!

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    • Anecdotes
      To recreate the foggy British atmosphere on the set, the crew used a mixture which was vaporized over the place, but became rapidly laxative. As a result, half of the crew got diarrhea after breathing and swallowing the artificial fog.
    • Citations

      King Charles II: [at a royal ball] Look at them. My loving subjects. You'd never know that half of them danced in Puritan garb while my father went to the chopping block.

      Amber St. Clair: [moved] No wonder you seek solace in amusement, sire.

      Amber St. Clair: [slyly] Can a common trollop help you to forget?

    • Générique farfelu
      Prologue:  "1644--The English Parliament and Oliver Cromwell's army have revolted against the tyrannical rule of Charles I. England is aflame with civil war..."
    • Autres versions
      A couple of weeks after its record breaking premiere, studio heads finally caved into Catholic protests and re-cut the movie. Among the changes:
      • References to Amber's sex life and any acts of non-marital romance were cut.
      • SPOILER: A new ending in which Amber watches her son go off with Bruce.
      • Redubbed dialogue in the form of Cornell Wilde repentative of his behaviour: "In Heaven's name, Amber, haven't we caused enough unhappiness?" and "May God have mercy on us both for our sins."
      • Also a prologue was added that condemned the character's actions: "This is the tragic story of Amber St. Claire... slave to ambition.. stranger to virtue... the wages of sin is death".
    • Connexions
      Featured in 20th Century-Fox: The First 50 Years (1997)

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    • Date de sortie
      • 26 janvier 1948 (Sweden)
    • Pays d’origine
      • United States
    • Langues
      • English
      • French
      • Italian
    • Aussi connu sous le nom de
      • Amber, die große Kurtisane
    • Lieux de tournage
      • Monterey, Californie, États-Unis
    • société de production
      • Twentieth Century Fox
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      • 6 000 000 $ US (estimation)
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      2 heures 18 minutes
    • Rapport de forme
      • 1.37 : 1

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