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Forever Amber

  • 1947
  • (Banned)
  • 2h 18m
ÉVALUATION IMDb
6,5/10
1,9 k
MA NOTE
Forever Amber (1947)
AdventureDramaRomance

Dans l'Angleterre du dix-septième siècle, une fille de la campagne, Amber St. Clair, a pour ambition de s'élever au niveau de la noblesse et y parvient, mais ce faisant, perd son véritable a... Tout lireDans l'Angleterre du dix-septième siècle, une fille de la campagne, Amber St. Clair, a pour ambition de s'élever au niveau de la noblesse et y parvient, mais ce faisant, perd son véritable amour.Dans l'Angleterre du dix-septième siècle, une fille de la campagne, Amber St. Clair, a pour ambition de s'élever au niveau de la noblesse et y parvient, mais ce faisant, perd son véritable amour.

  • Directors
    • Otto Preminger
    • John M. Stahl
  • Writers
    • Philip Dunne
    • Ring Lardner Jr.
    • Jerome Cady
  • Stars
    • Linda Darnell
    • Cornel Wilde
    • Richard Greene
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  • ÉVALUATION IMDb
    6,5/10
    1,9 k
    MA NOTE
    • Directors
      • Otto Preminger
      • John M. Stahl
    • Writers
      • Philip Dunne
      • Ring Lardner Jr.
      • Jerome Cady
    • Stars
      • Linda Darnell
      • Cornel Wilde
      • Richard Greene
    • 38Commentaires d'utilisateurs
    • 23Commentaires de critiques
  • Voir l’information sur la production à IMDbPro
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      • 3 victoires et 1 nomination au total

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    Linda Darnell
    Linda Darnell
    • Amber St. Clair
    Cornel Wilde
    Cornel Wilde
    • Bruce Carlton
    Richard Greene
    Richard Greene
    • Lord Harry Almsbury
    George Sanders
    George Sanders
    • King Charles II
    Glenn Langan
    Glenn Langan
    • Capt. Rex Morgan
    Richard Haydn
    Richard Haydn
    • Earl of Radcliffe
    Jessica Tandy
    Jessica Tandy
    • Nan Britton
    Anne Revere
    Anne Revere
    • Mother Red Cap
    John Russell
    John Russell
    • Black Jack Mallard
    Jane Ball
    • Corinne Carlton
    Robert Coote
    Robert Coote
    • Sir Thomas Dudley
    Leo G. Carroll
    Leo G. Carroll
    • Matt Goodgroome
    Natalie Draper
    Natalie Draper
    • Countess of Castlemaine
    Margaret Wycherly
    Margaret Wycherly
    • Mrs. Spong
    Alma Kruger
    Alma Kruger
    • Lady Redmond
    Edmund Breon
    Edmund Breon
    • Lord Redmond
    • (as Edmond Breon)
    Alan Napier
    Alan Napier
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    Margot Grahame
    Margot Grahame
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    • Directors
      • Otto Preminger
      • John M. Stahl
    • Writers
      • Philip Dunne
      • Ring Lardner Jr.
      • Jerome Cady
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    Commentaires des utilisateurs38

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    Doylenf

    Lavish costumer from best-selling historical romance...

    Kathleen Windsor's racy best-seller lost some of its punch in transition to the screen--mainly because censorship restrictions forced a complete whitewash of Amber St. Clair's exploits in bed-hopping. What is left is mild compared to today's graphic depiction of sex--but since the story unfolds against an interesting historical background in London during the reign of Charles II, it is worth viewing. Linda Darnell was not the first choice for Amber--Peggy Cummins began the role but after filming several scenes was dismissed as being too immature. Linda makes a voluptuous, willful Amber. Cornel Wilde is excellent as Bruce Carlton, her true love--although an unrequited one by the film's end. George Sanders does a terrific job as Charles II, spouting some of the film's wittiest dialogue and clever in his cat-and-mouse game with Amber. Richard Haydn as the Earl of Radcliffe gives perhaps the most interesting performance in the entire film, particularly during the fire sequences. The London fire is staged with authority, as are the scenes involving the Black Plague. David Raksin's musical background is a sumptuous, richly textured score (now available on CD from Marco Polo records). A film full of rich details under Otto Preminger's direction--but not as strong because of censorship restrictions and the inability to tell the story the way Windsor wrote it. The ending is entirely too abrupt in the video print with the original lengthier ending missing for some reason. Fans of Linda Darnell and Cornel Wilde will especially like this one.
    9jjnxn-1

    A tarty romp through Merry Olde England

    Somewhat saucy romp has a ravishingly beautiful and amber haired Linda Darnell in the lead full of piquant carnality, lavish costumes and settings and a scene stealing George Sanders as Charles II. What it doesn't have is a lively pace and that to some extent is its undoing. Preminger was the wrong director for a piece of entertainment like this that required a florid touch, Michael Curtiz would have been much more at home at the helm.

    The novel this is based on was a notorious but tremendously successful sensation of its day. That book while certainly not "A Great American Novel" is a highly enjoyable piece of pulp fiction full of sex, murder and double crosses in fancy clothes with a complex, very entertaining heroine at its center who has a good heart but is not overly burdened with morals. Unfortunately since they tried to film it in the forties when the Production Code was in full force the more salacious plot points had to be excised. What made it to the screen has its moments but shows the heavy hand of censors most evident in the abrupt ending but scattered throughout the movie. Still a fun romp with Linda giving a spirited performance and for those who haven't read the book a somewhat racy tone.

    A troubled production from the beginning what with censorship problems, a recast leading lady, Linda Darnell stepped in after production had started when Peggy Cummings didn't work out and Lana Turner couldn't be borrowed from MGM and a martinet in the director's chair.

    There are still a few amusing stories connected to the backstage upheaval that went on. Linda Darnell had worked with Preminger before on Fallen Angel and it had been rough going but she truly came to loathe him during production of Amber. Later while filming A Letter to Three Wives Joseph Mankiewicz needed her to throw a look of disgust at a picture unseen by the audience, to achieve that look he slipped a picture of Preminger into the frame without her knowledge, he got his look.

    A small sampling of Preminger's directorial style: after acting out a scene for Linda and Cornel Wilde he screamed at them as they tried to do as he had instructed "Don't do it like I did it! Do it like I meant it!"

    One peripheral story: when Ava Gardner was briefly married to Artie Shaw he flew into a rage and berated her when he caught her reading Forever Amber saying it was trash and she should be focusing her attention on things that would enrich her mind, he was that kind of husband. They divorced shortly after and within the year he had married Kathleen Winsor...the author of Forever Amber!
    jtmatbone

    Ending scene in Amber was cut!

    Just watched "Forever Amber" the other night on TCM and it was very riveting! I had seen this movie many many years before, and I do vividly recall the final scene when Amber from her window, was watching Carleton and son leaving for Virginia. The movie from the other night closed abruptly with Amber closing the window and the credits appeared. Something didn't seem right! I remember years ago, Amber getting some kind of invitation from the palace, and she immediately shifted her attention from Carleton and the boy to the royal invitation without another thought to her former lover. That scene defined Amber St.Clair in all its essence.
    6planktonrules

    A post-code version of a pre-code script

    The novel "Forever Amber" was wildly popular after debuting in 1944. But it also was banned in 16 states as well as abroad! Why? Because it was essentially a historical where the leading lady, Amber, sleeps her way from obscurity to the mistress of some of the most important men in the land. Today, it would be seen as somewhat tame...but in the 1940s it caused a sensation.

    Now this brings up a serious problem In the Hollywood of 1947, the Production Code made it virtually impossible to film the script unless huge changes were made in the story. Well, apparently Twentieth Century-Fox STILL didn't sanitize the story enough...and the Catholic Legion of Decency condemned the film. The movie was quickly withdrawn from theaters, scenes were re-shot and it returned to theaters....where it was wildly successful. Despite a huge price tag of $6,000,000, it went on to be the top grossing film of the year. I wonder how much of the Catholic Legion of Decency hubbub actually ended up HELPING the film!

    Linda Darnell stars as Amber St. Clair, a young girl from a good middleclass English family who lived during the Restoration period (when the monarchy was invited back to rule after the death of Cromwell in 1660). Amber is NOT a normal lady by any standard of the day and her family shocked when she not only refuses to marry the man they picked out for her but she then runs away to make her fortune. This essentially consists of sleeping her way up through the English gentry....with a brief period in which she slummed it with a highwayman. Throughout all her many affairs, she is most devoted to Bruce Carlton (Cornel Wilde)...though they never seem to connect up for long.

    When I watched the movie, I could tell some cuts had been made in a few places. One was odd, as she suddenly ended up pregnant...and you really weren't sure what happened there and it remained that way through much of the picture! Well, she obviously slept with a guy....but who? And, after the baby was born you don't hear any more about the baby until late in the story. Was the tike misplaced somewhere or perhaps taken by aliens and then returned? Who knows?!

    As far as the film goes, in many ways it's like a reworking of the Pre-Code film, "Red-Headed Woman"...in which Jean Harlow's character sleeps her way up through the social ranks. But of the two, "Red-Headed Woman" is the better film in many ways....mostly because it was much more open about the character's sexuality and the movie ended with the character receiving neither punishment nor learning a thing along the way! But with bowing to the Legion of Decency's demand for cuts, the film comes off as more episodic and confusing about Amber's sex life! Plus, let's be honest, the film is a lot less entertaining when it's less sleazy. As far as the production goes, it looks nice in rich Technicolor...but is also a tad stilted and dull after a while.
    6SnoopyStyle

    romance pulp

    It's 1644 and Civil War grips England. Baby Amber is found at the doorstep of a puritan family in the countryside. She is the product of a scandal from opposing sides of the war. It's 1660. Oliver Cromwell is dead and the monarchy is restored. Amber (Linda Darnell) refuses an arranged marriage and longs for a high class life. She uses her sex to social climb her way to the top. She follows a group of Royalist led by Lord Bruce Carlton (Cornel Wilde) and his friend Lord Almsbury to London. Her journey would take her to the court of King Charles II. Bruce gets her privateering ship. She gets pregnant and sent to debtors' prison where she joins highwayman Black Jack Mallard. They escape prison and go on their crime spree. Jack is killed and she is rescued by Captain Rex Morgan who introduced her to acting in the theater. That's where she reconnects with Lord Almsbury who is now married with a child. She continues to social climb as she pines for her true love Bruce.

    This is based on a period-piece romance novel. The name that caught my eye is director Otto Preminger. It's three years after his stylistic masterpiece Laura. It's the days of the powerful studio head and Zanuck had him under contract. He is given this prestige affair with a big budget. The material is rather scandalous at the time which Zanuck used with the expected censor opposition. It's nothing nowadays and this costume affair seems rather stiff. I don't know much about Linda Darnell. She seems to have a long and varied career with this as one of her highlights. She's beautiful and she's doing some broad acting. This is reminiscent of the style of Gone with The Wind except it is far inferior. It's rather pulpy where the sexual opportunism wears out its salacious welcome. It's compelling enough to watch but I don't find the ambitious Amber to be that appealing.

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      To recreate the foggy British atmosphere on the set, the crew used a mixture which was vaporized over the place, but became rapidly laxative. As a result, half of the crew got diarrhea after breathing and swallowing the artificial fog.
    • Citations

      King Charles II: [at a royal ball] Look at them. My loving subjects. You'd never know that half of them danced in Puritan garb while my father went to the chopping block.

      Amber St. Clair: [moved] No wonder you seek solace in amusement, sire.

      Amber St. Clair: [slyly] Can a common trollop help you to forget?

    • Générique farfelu
      Prologue:  "1644--The English Parliament and Oliver Cromwell's army have revolted against the tyrannical rule of Charles I. England is aflame with civil war..."
    • Autres versions
      A couple of weeks after its record breaking premiere, studio heads finally caved into Catholic protests and re-cut the movie. Among the changes:
      • References to Amber's sex life and any acts of non-marital romance were cut.
      • SPOILER: A new ending in which Amber watches her son go off with Bruce.
      • Redubbed dialogue in the form of Cornell Wilde repentative of his behaviour: "In Heaven's name, Amber, haven't we caused enough unhappiness?" and "May God have mercy on us both for our sins."
      • Also a prologue was added that condemned the character's actions: "This is the tragic story of Amber St. Claire... slave to ambition.. stranger to virtue... the wages of sin is death".
    • Connexions
      Featured in 20th Century-Fox: The First 50 Years (1997)

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    • Date de sortie
      • 26 janvier 1948 (Sweden)
    • Pays d’origine
      • United States
    • Langues
      • English
      • French
      • Italian
    • Aussi connu sous le nom de
      • Amber, die große Kurtisane
    • Lieux de tournage
      • Monterey, Californie, États-Unis
    • société de production
      • Twentieth Century Fox
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      • 6 000 000 $ US (estimation)
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      2 heures 18 minutes
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