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All Forum Posts by: Jay Hinrichs

Jay Hinrichs has started 321 posts and replied 40594 times.

Post: Can You Resell a Seller Financed Land or Property?

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yes its called a wrap..  google "all inclusive Deed of Trust" fantastic CA document we used all the way back in the early 80s

Post: how to become a hard money lender broker

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Quote from @Rachel Weiss:
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Hi, I'm wondering if anyone here knows. How do you become a broker for hard money lending?


 Get a list of fix and flippers and start dialing. Ask them if they have any projects they are seeking hard money on. Then connect with some hard money lenders (you can find some here on BP as well as some who are typing this right now) and connect with them to understand their product type, what they like to lend on and requirements.

Hard money broker is all numbers game of making relationships and helping those that are looking for financing, it starts out slow but if you get with a few good borrowers and lenders it can be pretty decent money to be made.

As an example we paid six figures last year to HM brokers. 

Thanks a lot. That's exactly why I want to get into it. I have a few good friends that would use me if I can service their HM needs. So is it a matter or reaching out to lenders saying I'm willing and able to act as a broker and ask for their terms/rules? Or does one need a special license / need to open a company? 

 typically no special license is needed when doing it for hard money loans that I am aware of. there may be states like california and nevada that are tricky where lenders need a license of some sort but for most part brokers i have seen are not licensed.


14 or 15 states require state license and NMLS registration. NV like Chris mentions even require brick and mortar.. Its funny how many fake lenders use a NV address as well.

Post: Favorite Tools for Building Distressed Owners Lists

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we like Property Radar

 Thank you! I'll check them out. Any idea estimate on cost?


its cheap  compared to what you get I found a strict foreclosure in Oregon that their site was on the only one tracking it and we made over 300k on that one deal. 

Post: Favorite Tools for Building Distressed Owners Lists

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Quote from @Greg Kasmer:

@Jay Hinrichs - What type of asset class do you target with property radar? (SFH, Multi, etc..) Just curious as I'm trying to find a system that targets small multifamily (5-20 units) and have not had much luck.


U can target any real estate  although its quite robust for what your looking for.. we go for land and development land for the big money plays

Post: Class C: Personal loan for 200k, should I use it for multiple down payments, or...?

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@Jay Hinrichs

DC!  stay safe.  


well thats part of the job  checking out your collateral.. :)  

Post: Class C: Personal loan for 200k, should I use it for multiple down payments, or...?

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Quote from @Frankie Paterno:

@Jay Hinrichs Im also interested in lending .. I got about 1.2M just sitting here would like to put to work. 


there ya go..  I am off to WA DC this morning  but if you send me a PM we can discuss. We keep 8 figure working we are small time but if you check my website you can see what we do in a short over view.. Although Frankly I personally would never lend money in NY unless its was extremely low LTV to the very best borrowers.. unravelling NY mortgages time is measured in years not months best to lend in Deed of Trust states were unravelling a bad loan is one year or less and a few grand.

Post: Class C: Personal loan for 200k, should I use it for multiple down payments, or...?

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@Jay Hinrichs

Just curious, any advice/comments/thoughts about how to possibly get started lending?


its very easy.. tehre are 35 states that do NOT require any license to do NON owner occupied loans.. very simple  talk to local attorney have them prep your note and mortgage and your good to go.. should not cost more that 1k or so for the docs.. Just like any bank.. I have been doing this since the mid 80s  over 3500.00 transactions and If I can do it you can do it :)

Post: Class C: Personal loan for 200k, should I use it for multiple down payments, or...?

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Quote from @Nicholas L.:

@Zach Howard

when you say a 'personal loan' at that interest rate - that must be a friends and family thing, right?  no one is commercially loaning at that interest rate right now.  and even for friends and family, that's more of a favor than a loan...

you asked not to sugarcoat, so here goes.  what you're proposing, while possible, is incredibly difficult and highly risky, and i don't know how you would do it completely remotely with no plans to visit or set up a team.

i think i've said this in other posts, but there is tremendous demand for inventory right now among both retail buyers and investors. to BRRRR something, you need a goldilocks property - something distressed enough that it can be bought substantially below market, but not so distressed that it can't be repaired. everyone wants those deals, and so you're competing remotely / from your computer against experienced investors in person in any market you'd pick.  on the chance that something comes to you somehow - you'd have to snap it up / put it under contract immediately, and again, that's very difficult to do remotely.  as an example, you'd have to do something different than this:

https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/963/topics/1195280-expe...

https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/48/topics/1137397-balti...

https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/48/topics/1137397-balti...

i am trying to do the same thing locally, in person, and it's difficult.  everything on and off market gets multiple offers almost immediately.  and if it's sitting, and you see it, it means everyone else passed on it.  what does that tell you?

on your second question - you're proposing 100% financing.  you'll be cash flow negative / losing money, potentially for years and years.  it's your money, so if you find something in a market you believe in and want to try to hold it very long term, OK - but again, it will be many years before you recoup all the interest you'd be paying.  i don't think that makes any sense - there are investments that make money - but YMMV.

hope this helps

Your talking financial suicide.. Class C from half way around the world fully levered.. U will go broke that I can basically assure you or at least 90% chance this will not work and you will lose money.

U would be better off making loans with that 3% 4% money at 10 to 12% and make the interest rate delta pick very good borrowers and let them take the risk on the assets.. Thats what i would do.. BE the BANK.. 


 You know seeing people complaining about interest rates elsewhere has really made me think of exactly that thing, borrow as much as I can, and even get friends to borrow at the lower interest rates here (assuming they qualify) and then arbitrage my way to profits. However, too many risks with that, and too many regulations I guess... I'm not a financial lender or whatever the legal term is. 

If possible, can you recommend something real estate-related? What would you do with the 200k? I don't think I can reap the same benefits from notes that I can from owning property. There are no write-offs for decpreciation, no continuous rent payments and so on.

I appreciate your reply.


PS I like Iowa just started there myself in 24 providing capital to local flippers and landlords .. doing what I preach lending money .. although I did buy a storage unit. 

Post: Class C: Personal loan for 200k, should I use it for multiple down payments, or...?

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Quote from @Zach Howard:
Quote from @Jay Hinrichs:
Quote from @Nicholas L.:

@Zach Howard

when you say a 'personal loan' at that interest rate - that must be a friends and family thing, right?  no one is commercially loaning at that interest rate right now.  and even for friends and family, that's more of a favor than a loan...

you asked not to sugarcoat, so here goes.  what you're proposing, while possible, is incredibly difficult and highly risky, and i don't know how you would do it completely remotely with no plans to visit or set up a team.

i think i've said this in other posts, but there is tremendous demand for inventory right now among both retail buyers and investors. to BRRRR something, you need a goldilocks property - something distressed enough that it can be bought substantially below market, but not so distressed that it can't be repaired. everyone wants those deals, and so you're competing remotely / from your computer against experienced investors in person in any market you'd pick.  on the chance that something comes to you somehow - you'd have to snap it up / put it under contract immediately, and again, that's very difficult to do remotely.  as an example, you'd have to do something different than this:

https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/963/topics/1195280-expe...

https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/48/topics/1137397-balti...

https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/48/topics/1137397-balti...

i am trying to do the same thing locally, in person, and it's difficult.  everything on and off market gets multiple offers almost immediately.  and if it's sitting, and you see it, it means everyone else passed on it.  what does that tell you?

on your second question - you're proposing 100% financing.  you'll be cash flow negative / losing money, potentially for years and years.  it's your money, so if you find something in a market you believe in and want to try to hold it very long term, OK - but again, it will be many years before you recoup all the interest you'd be paying.  i don't think that makes any sense - there are investments that make money - but YMMV.

hope this helps

Your talking financial suicide.. Class C from half way around the world fully levered.. U will go broke that I can basically assure you or at least 90% chance this will not work and you will lose money.

U would be better off making loans with that 3% 4% money at 10 to 12% and make the interest rate delta pick very good borrowers and let them take the risk on the assets.. Thats what i would do.. BE the BANK.. 


 You know seeing people complaining about interest rates elsewhere has really made me think of exactly that thing, borrow as much as I can, and even get friends to borrow at the lower interest rates here (assuming they qualify) and then arbitrage my way to profits. However, too many risks with that, and too many regulations I guess... I'm not a financial lender or whatever the legal term is. 

If possible, can you recommend something real estate-related? What would you do with the 200k? I don't think I can reap the same benefits from notes that I can from owning property. There are no write-offs for decpreciation, no continuous rent payments and so on.

I appreciate your reply.


Nope can mention any that will be better risk reward than making the Delta on a 3% loan in the US..  other than buying better class assets and break even and bank on values rising and what little depreciation does for you.. I would much rather have write ONs than write offs..

However again if your bound and determined to buy the physical assset then you need to buy quality not C class.. you will NOT get consistent cash flow like you are thinking your will. you will have tenants stop paying you will then get NO rent for 2 to 6 months as you evict and then spend thousands rehabbing the house they just trashed.. Buy quality assets with NON section 8 tenants that have 700 fico scores thats safe bet in the US>  And what I do .. I already did the C D class section 8 gig I had 300 of them.  NEVER EVER again.. I only buy Strong B or A and live with the 5 to 6% return but the real money is made in lending and new construction for us.

Post: Sub 2 Financing

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Quote from @Chris Seveney:
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Hello BiggerPockets community!

I would like to learn more about SUB 2 financing.

I know what SUB 2 financing is conceptually. The seller would use this strategy when they don't have a lot of equity in the house. But why would that make them want to use this financing method?

What are the benefits of SUB 2 financing a property? For me as well as the seller.

First, you have to define Sub to financing.

Do you mean the reckless kind where you overpay for a property, take over the financing and borrow from others to cover closing costs and holding costs when you have no money, no credit, no income, no reserves and can't tell a warranty deed from a deed of trust and you close on the kitchen counter

or do you mean

buying below market value, already having a nice income, having reserves, using escrow and title, already understanding the due on sale clause, have done a lot of creative purchases and know when to use and when not to use creative finance and how to recover if something goes amiss?

There is a big difference in how those are handled


 HAHA I just saw a post and commented where the person wanted to ask if they should overpay for a home because they can get is seller financing. If my crystal ball is correct, we are going to see a lot of these sub2 deals hit the fan in the next 36 months.


PS  flying to DCA today LOL  looks like I will make it had to pull all my warm cloths out of my closet.

 My age is catching up to me after shoveling for 2 hours yesterday. My back is feeling it


thats why god made snow blowers :)