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#indiewebcamp 2014-03-04

2014-03-04 UTC
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aaronpk i believe the leaflet-providers thing has mapquestopen built in https://github.com/leaflet-extras/leaflet-providers
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barnabywalters oh wow, they do free ariel tiles too!
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barnabywalters that’s awesome, thanks
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tantek.com edited /2014/SF/Guest_List (+0) "/* Official Guest List */ updated counts" (view diff)
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acegiak [B
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acegiak morning, all
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snarfed morning acegiak!
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Loqi benwerd: tantek left you a message on 3/3 at 12:02am: good to see more idno adoption - just saw unreally.com
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Loqi benwerd: tantek left you a message 8 hours, 13 minutes ago: hey fellow indiewebcampsf co-organizer, could you create a Lanyrd event for http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/SF? (see http://indiewebcamp.com/2013/UK for how we did it on that one)
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aaronpk benwerd: i think caseorganic already took care of that :)
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benwerd awesome
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benwerd and sorry .. my gaps are getting longer again ;)
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poppy is twitter indieauth currently known to be broken?
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poppy (or rather, did it ever work with the t.co wrapping?)
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@benwerd If you care about the future of the web, you should be at IndieWebCamp this weekend, either in person or remotely: http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/SF (twitter.com/_/status/440670712437547008)
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Loqi [mention] http://werd.io/2014/if-you-care-about-the-future-of-the-web-you linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/SF (webmention)
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werd.io edited /2014/SF (+5) "/* IndieWebCampSF 2014 */" (view diff)
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werd.io edited /2014/SF (+10) "/* Sponsor */" (view diff)
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snarfed poppy: twitter indieauth is often broken
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snarfed some details on http://indiewebcamp.com/IndieAuth#FAQ
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snarfed awesome, thanks for sponsoring benwerd!!!
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benwerd and likewise, snarfed!
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snarfed warm fuzzies
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werd.io edited /2014/SF/Guest_List (+1) "And now for the bad news that I'm grumpy about" (view diff)
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michielbdejong who has private messaging working? just drafted a "leave a message" textarea on https://michielbdejong.com/ - didn't see any mention of that in IndieMark.
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benwerd !tell tantek sent organizers an email (I know, I'm sorry) about status
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benwerd also have lunch platter from Palmyra ready to go for Saturday, with some help from Zesty. Let me know if that works with you.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell him that when I see him next
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michielbdejong I'm still learning CSS and basic layout design principles as you can see ;)
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poppy michielbdejong: not much private messaging happening: http://www.sandeep.io/178
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michielbdejong poppy: thanks for the link! since my site uses SSL/TLS, it's already end-to-end secure, which is the nice thing
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michielbdejong poppy: btw what is your site? i don't think i'm following your feed yet
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Loqi your site is blog
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poppy i'm several people
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poppy poppy.ws is not currently active
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michielbdejong poppy: ok, let me know when it is! i'm trying to collect a list of people whose blogs i can read in the morning, instead of reading Twitter
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poppy notably, there's no connection from my IRC nick to my actual site.
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michielbdejong which reminds me, time to add a feed to my own site, it doesn't have one yet :)
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poppy actually
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poppy both IRC and "real identity" are important enough in this community I should just make another account for this chan
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michielbdejong poppy: ok, then maybe i'm already following you
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poppy you might be! :D
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Loqi tantek: benwerd left you a message 25 minutes ago: sent organizers an email (I know, I'm sorry) about status
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michielbdejong !tell sandeep i am getting "Matching handler function not found" back when trying to webmention source: 'https://michielbdejong.com/live/6', target: 'http://www.sandeep.io/178'
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek !tell benwerd sorry, not going to have time to deal with email until Thursday at earliest - am hosting W3C AB meeting next two days. Hoping other co-organizers can handle it.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek !tell benwerd saw the diffs - thanks so much for the sponsorship but really bummed to see you can't be there in person. I know you have good reasons. Wishing you the best with whatever they are.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi brianloveswords: tantek left you a message 10 hours, 34 minutes ago: how is it going with getting Mozilla sponsorship for part of IndieWebCampSF? Can you help with Saturday? http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/SF#Sponsor
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Loqi brianloveswords: tantek left you a message 10 hours, 5 minutes ago: are you coming to IndieWebCampSF? Be sure to add yourself to the Guest List explicitly! http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/SF/Guest_List
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Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/like/facebook/36802236/10100743638469709/31600719 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/SF (webmention)
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michielbdejong !tell benwerd private message received, thanks for inaugurating it! :)
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/like/facebook/36802236/10100743638469709/6903819 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/SF (webmention)
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@michielbdejong "if you can't curl it, it's not on the web." http://indiewebcamp.com/IndieMark#Level_1 https://michielbdejong.com/live/8 (twitter.com/_/status/440743849325895680)
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Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/like/twitter/michielbdejong/440743849325895680/139199211 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/IndieMark#Level_1 (webmention)
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@michielbdejong I think I reached an IndieMark score of 1.5 (level 1 completed, cherry-picked from level 2) #indieweb https://michielbdejong.com/live/9 (twitter.com/_/status/440747767736975360)
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@voxpelli RT @michielbdejong: "if you can't curl it, it's not on the web." http://indiewebcamp.com/IndieMark#Level_1 https://michielbdejong.com/live/8 (twitter.com/_/status/440759240035430400)
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Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/repost/twitter/michielbdejong/440743849325895680/440759240035430400 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/IndieMark#Level_1 (webmention)
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@INVISPIDE 2014/SF - IndieWebCamp http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/SF?utm_content=bufferd1456&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer (twitter.com/_/status/440761505521610752)
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@jnystromdesign RT @michielbdejong: "if you can't curl it, it's not on the web." http://indiewebcamp.com/IndieMark#Level_1 https://michielbdejong.com/live/8 (twitter.com/_/status/440761609875881984)
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Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/like/twitter/michielbdejong/440743849325895680/11163352 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/IndieMark#Level_1 (webmention)
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Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/repost/twitter/michielbdejong/440743849325895680/440761609875881984 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/IndieMark#Level_1 (webmention)
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Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/like/twitter/michielbdejong/440743849325895680/5381582 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/IndieMark#Level_1 (webmention)
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@anddoutoi RT @michielbdejong: "if you can't curl it, it's not on the web." http://indiewebcamp.com/IndieMark#Level_1 https://michielbdejong.com/live/8 (twitter.com/_/status/440774211746136065)
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Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/repost/twitter/michielbdejong/440743849325895680/440774211746136065 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/IndieMark#Level_1 (webmention)
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KevinMarks_ hmm, how do you add rel="me" to G+ now? I have it on mine, but it doesn't seem to be there by default on other peoples
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kevinmarks.com edited /2014/SF/Guest_List (+377) "/* Apprentices */ add Scott Rosenberg" (view diff)
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kevinmarks.com edited /2014/SF/Guest_List (+1) "/* Official Guest List */ update counts" (view diff)
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Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/like/twitter/michielbdejong/440743849325895680/11628 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/IndieMark#Level_1 (webmention)
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@erichstauffer RT @fluxkraft: RT @aral: Reading: The Future of Quantified Self Devices http://aaronparecki.com/articles/2013/10/11/1/the-future-of-quantified-self-devices by @aaronpk #ownyourdata #indiedata (twitter.com/_/status/440845282335801344)
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Loqi benwerd: tantek left you a message on 3/3 at 7:24pm: sorry, not going to have time to deal with email until Thursday at earliest - am hosting W3C AB meeting next two days. Hoping other co-organizers can handle it.
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Loqi benwerd: tantek left you a message on 3/3 at 7:29pm: saw the diffs - thanks so much for the sponsorship but really bummed to see you can't be there in person. I know you have good reasons. Wishing you the best with whatever they are.
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Loqi benwerd: michielbdejong left you a message 12 hours, 33 minutes ago: private message received, thanks for inaugurating it! :)
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benwerd !tell tantek I cannot tell you how bummed I am to not be there (& separately, to have to fly in for important things *during SXSW*, which will be hell). I'd planned out what I was going to demo. Will have to save it for PDX.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell him that when I see him next
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Loqi tantek: benwerd left you a message 58 seconds ago: I cannot tell you how bummed I am to not be there (& separately, to have to fly in for important things *during SXSW*, which will be hell). I'd planned out what I was going to demo. Will have to save it for PDX.
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caseorganic benwerd: we are going to miss you a TON
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caseorganic benwerd: but understand
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benwerd caseorganic: thanks - I will leave how grumpy I am about this development offline :)
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benwerd I really hope everyone has an excellent weekend.
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@davidmead Updating to #IndieWeb: Thanks @t & @aaronpk for pointers to get back to #IndieWeb. I'm updating my blog,... http://davidjohnmead.com/?p=523 (twitter.com/_/status/440914342729371648)
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aaronpk oh nice, google re-enabled RSS feeds for google alerts http://thenextweb.com/google/2013/09/11/google-alerts-regains-rss-delivery-option-it-lost-after-google-readers-demise/
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caseorganic aaronpk: awesome!
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@aaronpk @davidmead Awesome work! Great to see your quick progress! #indieweb (http://aaronparecki.com/replies/2014/03/04/1/indieweb) (twitter.com/_/status/440915215698628608)
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@georgeroberts Indie Web Camp via @benwerd is the place to be if you care about our Internet http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/SF (twitter.com/_/status/440928262207062017)
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KartikPrabhu Hello indiewebcamp!
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KartikPrabhu mf2 parsing question: http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats2-parsing#parsing_a_u-_property talks about the normalised absolute URL. Does anyone know of any examples as to what that means?
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snarfed the "following …" part might explain it
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snarfed ie if it's relative, add the page's url prefix to the beginning to make it absolute
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KartikPrabhu snarfed: I see. Thought it was somethign more complicated :P
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KartikPrabhu also, why is the normlisation to absolute URL not applied to the later rules like urls obtained from abbr and data elements?
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snarfed KartikPrabhu: maybe oversight
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snarfed or implied
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KartikPrabhu hmm. possible. I'll do it for all u-properties and change it later if I get more information
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KartikPrabhu tantek: do you know of the reason why normalisation to absolute URLs is done in the middle and not at the end of u- parsing according to these rules: http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats2-parsing#parsing_a_u-_property
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KevinMarks_ 1 in 9 americans thinks HTML is a sexually transmitted disease: http://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-fi-tn-1-10-americans-html-std-study-finds-20140304,0,1188415.story
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jden it's not?
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aaronpk man that'd sure be a convenient way to learn it
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aaronpk s/convenient/fun
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Loqi aaronpk meant to say: man that'd sure be a fun way to learn it
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KartikPrabhu hmm why is this a concern?
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KartikPrabhu I am sure truck-drivers have jargon that most people do not know.
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aaronpk 1 in 5 thought an "MP3" was a Star Wars robot
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snarfed KartikPrabhu: probably not a concern, just entertaining
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aaronpk also it was one of those trick question surveys
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KartikPrabhu sure! it is funny what people will guess
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pauloppenheim.com edited /User:Pauloppenheim.com (+166) "/* Indie Web Config */" (view diff)
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@grigs @brianleroux wow, sad I’m missing @DHTMLConf and IndieWebCamp. @DHTMLConf looks awesome. (twitter.com/_/status/440983627229171712)
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Loqi sandeepshetty: snarfed left you a message 3 weeks, 1 day ago: just fyi, looks like brid.gy and your webmention handling aren't playing nice together: https://www.brid.gy/#Twitter-sandeepshetty . it's getting '400 Bad Request' from your webmention handler. click on the 'XXX ago' links for full logs. let me know if i can help!
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snarfed heh, 3 weeks ago
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snarfed welcome back sandeepshetty
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sandeepshetty thanks. will look into it in a bit.
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sandeepshetty aaronpk: does indieauth work with link rel tags?
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aaronpk hi! yes it should
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snarfed re bridgy, don't bother, it hasn't found any post links in your recent tweets to send webmentions to. https://www.brid.gy/#twitter-sandeepshetty
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sandeepshetty (y) that's good news. I don't need to add visible links just for indieauth on my home page in my redesign.
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sandeepshetty issue #48 (one level deep links like /contact) would also be nice to have.
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aaronpk yep! that was resolved a while ago
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aaronpk #48 would be nice, but i probably can't get to it very soon
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aaronpk i put my phone number and email in <link> tags long ago for SMS and persona auth
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sandeepshetty (y)
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sandeepshetty ok. gtg. working on moving converspace from purely dB to file system + indexes in dB. will report back soon. lots to catch up on.
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snarfed gl!
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aaronpk very cool
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